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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 987   
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Check proper adjustment on your bias springs. Also make sure to use MTL (or ATF Dex 3) in the gearbox. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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5th Aug 2025 8:21pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1296  
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I think he has the correct oil (this already will help a lot). The problem might be worn out synchros, which is not really a problem if you shift 'sympathetically'. Don't know by heart but 15km/hr in first sounds fast for a td5. I have a rev counter and normally shift at around 1500 rom, maybe a little higher if I push it.
Joining a busy motorway on a short merging strip will be challenge as you cannot really push the engine beyond 2500rpm AND expect a smooth shift in the lower gears. A while back I had a BMW 318 D 6 spoed manual and frankly there is no comparison.. you have to drive the Defender like a lorry and judge the traffic accordingly. The Beemer was a superior car at every level, but we let it go because there were far more interesting cars to buy and the Defender is timeless so still in the fleet. |
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6th Aug 2025 8:55am |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 987
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I forgot to mention, especially when driving an older R380, pause in neutral when shifting gears. What I mean is first gear start off then pull back into neutral for a half second then slip into second, same for all gears. Good luck 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris) 2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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6th Aug 2025 12:30pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2221  
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Really? I tend to shift around 4700+ if needing some speeed. Smooth as you like. Has a Slickshift + Swepco 712 Even blip the throttle on downshifts and still drives happy |
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6th Aug 2025 12:55pm |
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| charisme1 Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 43
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Exactly what is happening to me. I switched on my Nanocom while driving as I don’t have a tachometer. In 1st gear if I shift gently to 2d around 1500 rpm, and 10 km/h. All is smooth. If rpm or speed is more in 1st gear, shifting to 2d blocks or not smooth |
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6th Aug 2025 4:46pm |
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| charisme1 Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 43
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Spot on. Exactly what is happening to me. Pause in neutral while up-shifting 1st to 2d makes it smooth. I wonder if a new or recon R380 has the same behavior going from 1st to 2d |
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6th Aug 2025 4:50pm |
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| Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 391  
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I think the trouble is as the gearbox is made in Britain it is calibrated in mph, not kph so he needs to change up at 9.3mph instead.
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6th Aug 2025 5:45pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1296
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Last edited by TexasRover on 7th Aug 2025 7:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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7th Aug 2025 5:49pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2221
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Been thinking about this alot last few days..
Im generally shifting from 1st around 20kph normally then 30 if i want some extra get go. 10kph seems mad to me, literally it moves and now im changing up! Fairplay mine is heavily tuned but still thinking back to my old 90 was definitely not shifting at 10kph.... Id be looking at bias springs and clutch master cylinder adjustment. If everything is bang on then you should be able to shift from 1st to 2nd at 30kph without issue. |
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7th Aug 2025 6:17pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1296
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 Click image to enlarge Sure you can shift at near redline, but it's not going to be normal driving for most. Defenders are not quick and the R380 is not exactly a quick shifting gearbox especially after some synchro wear. I find the stock Td5 is happiest around 2000 rpm +/- 500 rpm |
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7th Aug 2025 7:50pm |
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| charisme1 Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 43
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Hi All
Just to keep this thread live, anybody here had the opportunity to drive a TD5 with a new or recon R380 ? Is the above behaviour of up-shifting 1st to 2d normal even with R380 in good condition ? Thank you for your feedbacks  |
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8th Aug 2025 10:02am |
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| Baz8046 Member Since: 08 Feb 2016 Location: Chatham Posts: 84 
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Hi, I put an Ashcroft recon in mine a few years ago and run it on MTL.
The old box didn't like second when cold and needed a short pause between gears to run smoothly especially at higher revs. The new box is exactly the same as the box that came out at 170k and seems to be the way these gearboxes are. It doesn't cause a problem you just can't rush the gearbox. Defender Td5 Commercial 2002 Range Rover L322 TDV8 Westminster 2012 Discovery 4 SDV6 Landmark 2016 |
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8th Aug 2025 11:24am |
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