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d j hutton

Member Since: 30 Jul 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 1044

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey

Scanguage 2 v ScanguageE v Turboguage v Ultraguage

Which to buy?

The scanguage box looks interesting (especially coming from a disco3 where everything is on display)

I see there are two versions, anyone had any experience of the ScanguageE? from what I can see it has all the same functions - except it only has two things shown at once and doesn't read/clear fault codes.

ScanguageE is a fair bit cheaper (and smaller), so the question is really, are the extra features of the original Scanguage2 worth the extra cash ?

I'm guessing the likely answer is they are the whole point of having it so faults can be read and cleared, the other info shown is possibly of secondary importance.

Also see there is also Turboguage which looks a bit similar and priced as low as £65 from China, so I'm guessing that's a knock off with no support, and another Ultraguage, more to look at than the Scanguage, cheaper but a horrid blue colour and import from USA only, so not sure what to put on the Crimbo list really, maybe I'll hedge my bets and go for socks and hanks again .

Any views or experiences on the above would be welcome, as I like the idea of a bit more info on display (where's the emoticon for geek?)

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13th Dec 2011 6:19pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Do a search or 'pm' Lorryman! There's loads of posts of what Scangauge can and cannot do already on the site!

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13th Dec 2011 6:55pm

d j hutton

Member Since: 30 Jul 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 1044

thanks for the quick response, I had done that search and scanguage looks very interesting, but I was also after some comparisons with the other version - scanguageE and other options as well. I'm guessing that scanguage is the instrument of choice, but there are other options which might be worth exploring if anyone has experience of them - turboguage, ultraguage et all.

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2011 110 usw Orkney grey

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13th Dec 2011 7:11pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Depends on really what you want it for....If it's simply to read and clear basic faults and have a few extra real-time readouts pound for pound Scangauge 2 is (for me anyway) the best, most functional tools for my needs. If money and time to experiment was in abundance I would probably go for Blackbox Solutions....Faultmate MSV2....Each to their own!

http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/products.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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13th Dec 2011 7:59pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

I'm with K9F on the scangauge 2. Pound for pound it is a very handy and versatile tool all packaged up nicely and easily blends in with the dash. The scangauge 2 allows you to clear dtc's (tested) which illuminate the MIL lamp and the new software versions also allow you to display pending dtc's (untested) as well. The standard gauges cover most of the engine monitoring systems and those that are not covered can be programmed into x gauge, an additional set of codecs for sensors on the Ford PWM and CANSF protocols. The standard gauges show, Manifold Absolute Pressure/Boost, Miles Per Gallon, Kilometres Per Gallon, Miles Per Litre, Liters Per 100Km, Kilometres Per Litre, Miles Per Hour, Kilometres Per Hour, Revolutions Per Minute, Throttle Position Sensor, Water Temperature, Average Fuel Economy, Trip Fuel Cost, Cost Per Mile, Battery Voltage, Intake Air Temperature, Gallons Per Hour, Litres Per Hour, Engine Loading, etc.
The additional xgauge codecs available give you BHP, EGR duty cycle, FPr, CHT, Fuel pump duty cycle, Barometric pressure, fuel tank level in %, Fuel pump pulse widths etc.
The scangauge e is suited more to the eco friendly minded driver as it is designed more for eco driving, giving info on real time fuel use and your real time carbon footprint, so not really applicable to a defender which has the aerodynamics of a 3 bed semi on wheels and the fuel usage which mirrors this fact. It also does not give you access to as many gauges as the scangauge 2 and does not allow you to read and clear faults, or has the x gauge function.

Just my tuppence worth.

Brian.

14th Dec 2011 2:15am

lrmaniac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 762

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

Just ordered my ScangaugeII yesterday!

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15th Dec 2011 12:03pm

o4dn

Member Since: 08 Jan 2010
Location: South West
Posts: 530

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

Lorryman100 wrote:
I'm with K9F on the scangauge 2. Pound for pound it is a very handy and versatile tool all packaged up nicely and easily blends in with the dash.

100% agreed, very handy tool, taught me to improve my driving and increase fuel mileage.

Lorryman100 wrote:

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The additional xgauge codecs available give you BHP, EGR duty cycle, FPr, CHT, Fuel pump duty cycle, Barometric pressure, fuel tank level in %, Fuel pump pulse widths etc.

Sounds nice, where did you get those xgauges additional codes for the Puma?

I checked on scangauge.com website http://www.scangauge.com/support/x-gauge-commands/

But I'm unsure which ones apply to the Puma, the Ford codes I guess, but which protocol, CANSF I guess? And there's even a separate section for Diesel engines... So it's a bit confusing...

Maybe it's time for a separate thread to share Scangauge configuration for the Puma

15th Dec 2011 1:57pm

MD5

Member Since: 02 May 2011
Location: Italy
Posts: 143

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

After reading lot's of positive feedback I also purchased and installed a ScanGauge2 device.

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It fit very nice in the central console, I'm very happy about it!

26th Dec 2011 9:52pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

MD5 wrote:
It fit very nice in the central console, I'm very happy about it!

Does it play tunes too?

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

26th Dec 2011 10:44pm

MD5

Member Since: 02 May 2011
Location: Italy
Posts: 143

K9F wrote:
Does it play tunes too?

No, but to play music I use the sinto-usb-player installed in the Corsetti roof console

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27th Dec 2011 6:17am

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

that roof console looks good.

Pom

27th Dec 2011 2:14pm

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

pom wrote:
that roof console looks good.

Pom

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27th Dec 2011 4:41pm

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