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mmbanf



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Ingenium 3.0 D
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I found this video in Polish language, it's shocking....if I understood correctly the engine of this new Range Rover, the same as the Defender Diesel, with only 34000 km maybe used inappropriately???, or they used the wrong oil.....Disastrous Big Cry Big Cry
Post #1069268 7th Jun 2025 8:23pm
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lightning



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This video caused a discussion elsewhere on a Land Rover forum, it was generally agreed that there was something seriously wrong with the engine to cause this, such as a faulty EGR or some other issue.

l've not seen anything else like this in the five years since the Defender L663 was introduced.
Post #1069271 7th Jun 2025 8:52pm
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Silb



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This is the second video I've seen regarding sludge in the i6 Ingenium. (see at about the 6 min mark) I'm wandering if this is just the result of short trips and lang service intervals.. or there are some others factors at play here?
Is perhaps the JLR oil formulation (STJLR 03.5007) more prone to sludge forming than other engine oils?
Other had these particular vehicles some additional issues with the EGR or the injectors or some defective sensor, leading the engine to an abnormal consumtion and more sooth an sludge?
Post #1069326 8th Jun 2025 9:44pm
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dspuk



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I think the challenge is hundreds of thousands are fine but here are two "shocking" videos is not as fun a headline for YT twits.

It's a big yawn from me.
Post #1069327 8th Jun 2025 9:57pm
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haymeister



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Already covered almost a year ago on this thread... yawn.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic93152...ine+sludge 22MY Defender 110 D300 S in Pangea Green and Contrast White Roof
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Post #1069334 9th Jun 2025 2:07am
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lightning



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As above.

But still a mystery as to how the engine ended up like that. The conspiracy theorist in me says it was done by another manufacturer trying to damage Land Rover's reputation.
Post #1069342 9th Jun 2025 10:43am
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ruben



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Yes, I agree, either that or it is a simple negligence in maintenance that has mixed "things" or a very strange failure of the oil itself ...by high temperature oxidation in an unsuitable oil?? I don't see clearly how it can be possible that a mechanical failure, even a catastrophic one, can turn the simple oil into something that looks more like pure unrefined crude oil... it doesn't seem credible…. and despite… having many views on YouTube...it's priceless Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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Post #1069345 9th Jun 2025 11:07am
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DrRob



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Oil & filter changes should be done more frequently than the absurd LR frequency.
My new D350 90 has been done at 3500 miles and 7 months.
Next will be at 12 months. MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
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Post #1069346 9th Jun 2025 12:09pm
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ruben



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I think it's correct if you consider it appropriate, but what we see in this video I don't think corresponds to such a case of excessively prolonged maintenance!! In any case, with “the absurd LR frequency”would have a dilution issue.!! I think Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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Post #1069347 9th Jun 2025 12:37pm
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mse



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DrRob wrote:
Oil & filter changes should be done more frequently than the absurd LR frequency.
My new D350 90 has been done at 3500 miles and 7 months.
Next will be at 12 months.


Why?
Service intervals on many modern cars are 2-3 years and have been long before jlr went that way.

I remember when people did 6 month services and although i try to do annual changes, times move on Mike
Post #1069349 9th Jun 2025 1:42pm
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90 Dreamer



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service intervals are only so extended simply because it keeps the leasing cost low during warranty...........

if you think it has anything to do with longevity then I have a bridge to sell you Wink
Post #1069351 9th Jun 2025 2:38pm
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mse



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I dont agree at all. Although i not you confuse key points.

There are many advances in technology to increase service intervals and reduce operating costs. Longevity is a feature but we all know the component life cycle is a high early then drops, then increases with age - where that increase failure comes also is defined by many factors

My tractor has 2 year hydraulic fluid service intervals - many other cars have service periods well in excess of land rover, miles and age

Theres no harm in more frequent servicing, but it isnt accurate to say that 24 month service in normal conditions is harmful just because you havent changed the engine oil and therefore it must be bad and as such all cars with 2yr service will not last. Mike
Post #1069352 9th Jun 2025 3:19pm
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DrRob



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mse wrote:
DrRob wrote:
Oil & filter changes should be done more frequently than the absurd LR frequency.
My new D350 90 has been done at 3500 miles and 7 months.
Next will be at 12 months.


Why?
Service intervals on many modern cars are 2-3 years and have been long before jlr went that way.

I remember when people did 6 month services and although i try to do annual changes, times move on


It was at the dealer for 2 months due to a knackered dcdc converter and back order replacement. I asked for a complimentary oil and filter change and it was granted Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂
1949 80" - still in family since 1975
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Munchie



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mse wrote:
I dont agree at all. Although i not you confuse key points.

There are many advances in technology to increase service intervals and reduce operating costs. Longevity is a feature but we all know the component life cycle is a high early then drops, then increases with age - where that increase failure comes also is defined by many factors

My tractor has 2 year hydraulic fluid service intervals - many other cars have service periods well in excess of land rover, miles and age

Theres no harm in more frequent servicing, but it isnt accurate to say that 24 month service in normal conditions is harmful just because you havent changed the engine oil and therefore it must be bad and as such all cars with 2yr service will not last.


I agree my now 12 year old M3 V8 (with supposedly racing engine heritage) has its oil changed every 2 years as was set out by BMW ages ago - it hasnt broken or blown up. Some on the M3 forums change their oil every 6 months - each to their own.
Post #1069406 10th Jun 2025 10:37am
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