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bear100



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business / accountant help
Hey all, after some advice.
im very new and green with the below and finding my feet!

I'm just starting a LTD company and I'm sole director and VAT registered
i need to buy a van purely for business use (defenders for pleasure!)
I'm trying work out the best way for tax efficiency, i have the funds privately.
do i -

simply lease a van through a company?

or

loan the company money for the van 35k plus vat ish (new transit) directors loan
company claims vat, AIA and repays loan amount

or
buy privately, lease the van to the company over a number of years (after all this is how lease companies earn money)
company claims full cost of hire off company tax every month
could i still claim vat on the van in anyway?

or is there a better way to do it? 2023 Defender L663 V8
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NOTE: I AM NOT AN ACCOUNTANT

I ran your scenarios through Claude (AI), below is what it churned out; it is worth fact-checking with someone in the know, if correct.


To help you understand the tax-efficient options for acquiring a van for your new LTD company. Let me search for the most current information on UK business vehicle purchases to make sure my advice is up-to-date.

Based on the information I've gathered, I can outline the most tax-efficient ways for your new LTD company to purchase a van for business use. Let me break down your options:

## Option 1: Company Purchase with Annual Investment Allowance (AIA)

If your LTD company purchases the van outright, you can claim the full cost against profits through the Annual Investment Allowance (AIA), which allows for full first-year deductions. This is one of the most tax-efficient methods.

The process would work like this:
1. The company pays for the van (£35k + VAT)
2. Since the van will be used exclusively for business, your company can reclaim all the VAT on the purchase
3. The company can claim 100% of the cost against profits through the Annual Investment Allowance, reducing your Corporation Tax bill

## Option 2: Director's Loan to Company

If you have funds personally but want the company to own the van, you could:

1. Loan the £35k + VAT to your company (as a director's loan)
2. The company purchases the van
3. This money would be recorded in your Director's Loan Account (DLA) as a credit (company owes you)
4. You can withdraw this money tax-free from the company in the future when the company has sufficient funds
5. The company still gets all the tax benefits mentioned in Option 1

When using a director's loan, you must keep accurate records of all transactions in a director's loan account, which should be included in your company's balance sheet as part of the annual accounts.

## Option 3: Lease the Van

With a lease agreement, your company would make fixed monthly payments for the use of the van over a defined period.

Benefits include:
1. The company can deduct the full leasing costs against profits, reducing Corporation Tax
2. For a leased van used purely for business, the company can reclaim 50% of the VAT on lease payments
3. No large upfront capital expenditure required

## Key Tax Considerations

1. **VAT Recovery**: You can reclaim all VAT on a new company van if it's used exclusively for business purposes. This is a significant advantage.

2. **Private Use**: The van must be used exclusively for business purposes with no private use to claim 100% VAT. If there is any private use, there would be a Benefit in Kind (BIK) charge of £715 for 2025.

3. **Corporation Tax**: The full VAT-exclusive cost of the van can be offset against the company's profits for the year through the Annual Investment Allowance. This would significantly reduce your Corporation Tax liability.

## Most Tax-Efficient Option

Based on your situation as a sole director with a new LTD company and purely business use of the van, the most tax-efficient approach would be **Option 1 or 2**:

- **If company has the funds**: Purchase outright through the company
- **If you have personal funds**: Loan the money to the company and have the company purchase it

Both options allow the company to:
1. Reclaim the full VAT (as it's purely for business use)
2. Claim 100% of the cost against profits in year one via AIA
3. Avoid any BIK charges (as long as it's strictly for business use only)

If you opt for the director's loan route, you can withdraw the money tax-free when the company has sufficient funds to repay you. Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
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bear100



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Thanks for the help,

It’s pretty much what I’ve came up, good idea to us AI!! 2023 Defender L663 V8
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As you're working as a limited company, you almost certainly have an accountant. Ask them, it's what you pay them for.
If you don't have an accountant, get one. Unless you're a qualified accountant (van?), then you'll need one to do your limited company returns.
Much cheaper in the long run to get it right at the start.
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