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Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1649 ![]() ![]() |
for the money terrafirma is ok. yes their paint is whisper thin but the springs last well and the shocks are not bad.
old man emu. shocks and springs are excellent britpart shocks dont last 6mths of road use. springs sag quickly. bearmach stuff used to be very good and there is plenty of it around still. not tried the extreme ones. iron man work well and last well and their shocks are rebuildable. dont rule out decarbon shocks or any other good brand names |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
First question, why do you want a 2" lift? On road and towing it is not a good thing for the most part. And while lifting can have benefits off road, you really don't need too. A Defender pretty much comes with a lift included from the factory and sits higher with more clearance than most other 4x4's do. Lifting will also potentially make the suspension worse off road, unless you have done something to increase suspension travel. There are lots of ways to lift a vehicle. The simplest has to be the addition of some lift spacer/blocks/packers. You can get them in different heights and retain standard springs..... ![]() If you want to go for a longer spring (which you'll likely want/need if you have more suspension flex. Then Flatdog springs are pretty good, as you can buy them in +2" length, but standard spring rate. They'll maybe give you 1" of lift. But be less likely to dislocate (fall out of the spring seat) during flex if you have more travel. https://www.flatdoguk.com/def%2D90%2D%2B2%22%2D%2F%2Dstd%7E339 Of course you could still lift packers with longer springs too. Or include dislocation cones if needed. |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
Not sure I'd really agree with any of those points. |
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johnlad Member Since: 18 Dec 2023 Location: Blackpool Posts: 74 ![]() ![]() |
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134500853527?mk...media=COPY
These are standard Land Rover springs but +2”. |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
Nothing in that ebay listing suggest +2", in fact it explicitly states:
Specific Fitment Information : Full set of Standard Suspension Springs |
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johnlad Member Since: 18 Dec 2023 Location: Blackpool Posts: 74 ![]() ![]() |
I bought them and can confirm there +2.
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johnlad Member Since: 18 Dec 2023 Location: Blackpool Posts: 74 ![]() ![]() |
Here’s the same front spring +2”
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134689641698?mk...media=COPY |
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Blue Blood Member Since: 14 Jun 2022 Location: Shropshire Posts: 138 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for feedback everyone, that last link they are blue. Are you sure they are the same?
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8277 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I agree with all Mdm mentions having raced them off road, taught in them and worked on them for last 30years Cheers James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop Last edited by jst on 29th Apr 2025 10:02pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8277 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't follow the logic lifting makes them worse off road and is not needed, bit each to.their own. Cheers James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
Have seen plenty of Terrafirma shocks not last, even ones with mild use. And while I know it is fashionable on this website to bash all things Britpart, it really is a rather dump take on it. Bearmch is gone.... some bits you might find as old stock, but claiming they are all easy to get is utter nonesense. Old Man Emu really depends on what you buy. Their catalogue is HUGE. And things like the shocks Gwy Lewis sells are not what OME actually list for a Defender. Some of the OME kit have been hugely stiff and hard riding in the past for the Defender. Very much likely aimed at overlanders in Oz with every accessory and a heavy roof rack on top. Iron Man, don't see much of in the UK, although I have one of their bumpers on my Jimny. Kits are often quite generic and usually aimed at the Oz market for GVM upgrades. Also been around Land Rover's for decades. ![]() |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
Lifting without increasing travel, just means you have less droop in the suspension. And are more likely to lift a wheel and become cross axled. Thus worse off road. I did mention about suspension flex. If you go stiffer springs this only makes it worse. Other issues can be getting coil bound before full compression or too stiff a spring rate to allow full suspension flex. Have been in and around doing Land Rover trials and competition all my life. It is very rare that a standard height vehicle will genuinely run out of ground clearance. Even with 100" wheelbase, let alone the 92.9" of a 90. You can also fit 33"+ tyres on a standard Land Rover. Any bigger and you put the axles/diffs at risk. Why do you think lifting is a good thing off road? And what have you been doing that stock height has been a restriction? |
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Blue Blood Member Since: 14 Jun 2022 Location: Shropshire Posts: 138 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mr Stick I fully appreciate everyone’s feedback inclusive of yours and I do like seeing people’s backgrounds and experiences.
For me I want a two inch lift as I go through quite a few fords where I live and we get quite a bit of flooding, which can leave us stranded (a snorkel is on the books). Also I do like the aesthetic it gives (that’s the each to their own choice ![]() I don’t want people to get heated or agitated about the question (I know some people are very passionate about their cars especially when they have been round them longer than I have been on Earth). Again I really am appreciative of peoples views and responses, so thank you all. ![]() |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() |
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263671421618?mk...media=COPY
Plus stock springs. Deep water wading is more than just a snorkel if you do it often though. That said.... 100% stock standard Ninety bar the roll cage: ![]() Click image to enlarge |
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