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familymad



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Suzuki Jimny 5 door
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feature...-five-door

Emissions are too high. I mean come on, really? This would be a cracking think on our awful UK roads. Does need a bit more grunt tho. 1951 80" S1 2.0
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TexasRover



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Its for the environment you know. But they can have high emissions elsewhere, just like TATA steel, coal mines, waste 'disposal', etc.

Europe saving the world..
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Chicken Drumstick



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I think it is more it doesn't weigh enough. I suspect it is cleaner than most of the 4x4s sold in the UK currently. The 3 door one was..... I believe heavy vehicles can have higher emissions without the same penalty.
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lightning



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lt's to do with total emissions of Suzuki's range. lf they don't reach a certain level they get fined £15,000 for every vehicle they sell in the U.K.

The Jimny isn't a hybrid so pushes them over the "fine" threshold. The 3-door is currently still available as a Commercial variant as this is exempt


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Chicken Drumstick



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I think there must be more to it than that, else how does pretty much every other car maker sell bigger saloons, SUVs and 4x4s!!!

Suzuki is one of the very few car makers to only sell small compact cars with tiny engines and power outputs. It wouldn't make sense if every other car maker gets fined, as you say £15,000 per vehicle. There would never be any profit in any of them.
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lightning



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Most other large 4x4's are either hybrid or mild hybrid

Either that, or they're N1 Commercial which makes them exempt. For some reason Suzuki didn't fit a hybrid power unit in the Jimny.

Every other vehicle Suzuki sells is at least a mild hybrid.




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Zed



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lightning wrote:
lt's to do with total emissions of Suzuki's range. lf they don't reach a certain level they get fined £15,000 for every vehicle they sell in the U.K.

The Jimny isn't a hybrid so pushes them over the "fine" threshold. The 3-door is currently still available as a Commercial variant as this is exempt


As I understand it that is right. They have to hit certain emissions standards over the company’s whole range. The result being they choose to sell combustion engined cars with the biggest profit margin, basically large SUV’s. From the company’s point of view it makes perfect sense but it has effectively killed certain markets, the reasonably priced hot hatch being the most obvious,
but also niche cars like the Jimmy. WARNING.
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