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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
replacing lower dash vent control cable
Ages ago the cable snapped that controls the lower dash vent.

I have no dash mounted speakers (which might have been handy for this job)

From memory and a quick look, its seem the only way to replace is to remove the dash ?

Or is there another way? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1018138 12th Dec 2023 11:29am
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donmacn



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I have a Tdi and though I know the top dash panels are different on the Td5, I'm sure the lower dash/duct is the same (?).

In which case the answer is yes, you will need to remove the dash, and lower duct so that you can remove the top of it and replace the cable.

The only exception might be if the cable snapped outside the duct, or if it's just come loose from the grub screw at the lever?

Even if you had speakers, the "heater section" is enclosed/separated from where the speakers normally go, and you'd get no access that way. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #1018150 12th Dec 2023 1:20pm
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excossack



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Thanks Donald. Just what I feared might be the case. Sad Censored .
Pretty sure the cable has snapped either in the cable tube or at the other end. - but I will be double checking before I commence operation dash board removal 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1018160 12th Dec 2023 2:31pm
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donmacn



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Yeah, it's a pain isn't it.

I reckon I've been there four or five times over the years, in my car or others. As I'm sure you know, it's not really difficult in any way, just 'complicated' and with so many self-tappers to undo, and always the risk that disturbing old wiring can cause problems - which you won't know about till you've put everything back together again!

If I know I've to "go in" that far I tend to have a wee think about other things that need doing, or even might need doing in the near future. Maybe an electrics upgrade or whatever. It might mean bringing some stuff forward, but at least you'll avoid further unnecessary work. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #1018168 12th Dec 2023 3:09pm
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excossack



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I was thinking what else while in there and the immediate one is wiper spindles. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1018176 12th Dec 2023 4:10pm
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4RF RDS



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If you are doing spindles might as well do the rack as well… kind of easy and inexpensive to clean up all the slack.

Food for thought. Good luck Thumbs Up 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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Post #1018260 13th Dec 2023 3:25pm
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geobloke



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What else?

Literally any wiring you have been putting off. The last time I took the dash apart I ran blank wires to the accessory switches ready for the day when I fit them.

Good time to add any insulation or sound proofing.

How about the Defender-vent from MUD for side window demisting?

Fitting the 99 intermittent wiper relay.

Extending the 10AS aerial wire for better remote range.

Replace any dead dash bulbs.

Fitted heated seat wiring.

Replace the rear of the dash binnacle support with the metal version.



...Shall I go on...?!?!? Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
Post #1018270 13th Dec 2023 5:09pm
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excossack



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I think I have enough wires for now Smile (if that is possible)

Heated seat wiring in - but might revisit. but not this occasion

No dead dash bulbs.

Defender-vent from MUD for side window demisting - is an option

Fitting the 99 intermittent wiper relay - I think I have one in the spares box

Good time to add any insulation or sound proofing - could be another option. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #1018271 13th Dec 2023 5:20pm
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geobloke



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This is the one I am talking about https://www.mudstuff.co.uk/products/defendervent
Post #1018272 13th Dec 2023 5:33pm
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excossack



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Thats was the one I was hoping you were referring to, not the one that sits on top of the dash vents! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #1018274 13th Dec 2023 5:36pm
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geobloke



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Yeah it is a good modification, it does work, but it is not a hurricane strength wind bowing out of the vents. I would it again though Thumbs Up
Post #1018276 13th Dec 2023 5:43pm
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Screbble



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This was meant to be John.

It is the Defender Gods sending you a message - you need to do all of the jobs that you’ve been putting off because you don’t want to remove the dash.

It is fate.

Come to think of it, I think my wife must be a Defender God.

Good luck 👍
Post #1018292 13th Dec 2023 8:08pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Off the top of my head;

Mud vents
Wiper spindles
Broken lower flap cable
investigate why the dash gets warm on the passenger side (mainly the curved vertical plastic section that goes between the lower dash and the upper dash - might contain wiper mechanisms?
The odd squeak from the passenger side

So not a lot really..... Should keep me out of trouble for a weekend or so 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1018309 13th Dec 2023 9:31pm
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geobloke



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If it is like Miffy that squeak will be related to the first and last time my wife helped with a DIY job... Darned screw is still down there Rolling with laughter
Post #1018310 13th Dec 2023 9:37pm
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excossack



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oh dear Sad 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #1018312 13th Dec 2023 9:42pm
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