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colinsb



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Abergwesyn Pass conditions
It's hardly an expedition, but this afternoon I have to travel from Radnorshire to Cardigan. One of the options is to go from Beulah to Tregaron via the Devil's Staircase and the Abergwesyn Pass, which I haven't done for many years.

Can anyone with more recent experience tell me if there are any issues to be aware of, eg water crossings?

Thanks. 90 D250 HSE, Pangea Green with tan interior and fabric sunroof.
Post #1015710 20th Nov 2023 9:29am
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geobloke



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It's a paved road so should be just fine. If it is like any of the back roads up here in Denbighshire then it is going to be extremely wet, so slow as you go and keep of the verges as they are soft. Beautiful road for a back road drive. Have fun.
Post #1015754 20th Nov 2023 2:37pm
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MarkBrown



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I've traveled that road lots of times, only once has there been water over the road, at the bridges, then it was only about a foot deep. You'll be fine. The timber Lorries are using it at the moment.

Keep an eye open for this beast!


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Post #1015757 20th Nov 2023 2:44pm
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geobloke



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Is that still there? I have photo of that from back in 2006/7 Rolling with laughter
Post #1015760 20th Nov 2023 2:57pm
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MarkBrown



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It was a week ago, there's another one behind the barn which can be seen from the bridleway. I think that there would be some other cool stuff behind the farm, but there's no right of way past to take a look.
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MarkBrown wrote:
I've traveled that road lots of times, only once has there been water over the road, at the bridges, then it was only about a foot deep. You'll be fine. The timber Lorries are using it at the moment.

Keep an eye open for this beast!


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Now I DO like that đź‘Ť
Post #1015951 21st Nov 2023 9:07pm
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colinsb



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I did the trip with no problems, although some of the crests were totally blind until I remembered the "glass bonnet" camera! The water levels were nowhere near flowing over the bridges. I wouldn't want to do it in the summer, just because of the oncoming traffic. Respect to anyone road rallying across the Pass!

And by a fluke, I stopped in the gateway in front of the AEC Militant to reply to a message.



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 90 D250 HSE, Pangea Green with tan interior and fabric sunroof.
Post #1015995 22nd Nov 2023 11:47am
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geobloke



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Super. Glad you had a good drive out Thumbs Up
Post #1015999 22nd Nov 2023 12:20pm
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Looks like you had a great drive đź‘Ť
Post #1016036 22nd Nov 2023 6:01pm
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colinsb



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I did, and if I’d left two hours earlier, the sun would have been shining. 90 D250 HSE, Pangea Green with tan interior and fabric sunroof.
Post #1016042 22nd Nov 2023 6:21pm
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You can’t have everything…

The scenery looks great in any weather Thumbs Up
Post #1016047 22nd Nov 2023 6:39pm
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Nuclear Nick



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Did this pass on a night rally many years ago in 1275 Cooper S. Fortunately I had a great navigator who called all the bends superbly but perhaps just as well as in the dark I couldn’t see the drops to either side or I would have been even more terrified! Good fun though. Only problem we had was stopping at the time control at the end due to brake fade!
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colinsb



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Brave!! 90 D250 HSE, Pangea Green with tan interior and fabric sunroof.
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It looks stunning - I’d never heard of it until now so thanks for raising my awareness 👍
I definitely want to drive it - but not quite like Nuclear Nick Rolling with laughter
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blackwolf



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You can make a nice circular trip if you incorporate the old road from Pontrhydfendigaid to Abergwesyn (better known as Strata Florida, after the abbey it passes) which comes out approximately half-way between Abergwesyn and Tregaron.

It is unfortunate however that this track has become a magnet for the off-road-moron brigade in recent years, and has changed almost beyond recognition from the gentle isolated ancient route it was 30 or 40 years ago. It is also sensible to be careful in the wet season, since some of the many water-crossings will be deep. It is not for the inexperienced if driven solo, but much more enjoyable solo.
Post #1016248 24th Nov 2023 12:35pm
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