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df1



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Occasional Battery Drain
I have a TD5 110 and it seems to randomly drain the battery overnight.

It could be alright for months at a time and then just out of the blue I come out some morning I come out and completely flat.

I tried tracing it through using a multimeter on the battery positive lead and pulling each fuse to see if there is a drain on one particular item - no luck.

It seems to just drain the battery and then if I jump it it'll be OK, just an intermittant problem.

Could a relay act up this way ? Or any other suggestions, I'm heading off on a trip in a month so would like to solve the problem before this.
Post #97686 2nd Nov 2011 3:02pm
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drewster



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you are right you could have a sticky relay do you have heated seats ?
rear screen?or front screen?
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leeds



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or sticky relay on glow plugs?

Brendan
Post #97709 2nd Nov 2011 4:39pm
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df1



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There's a heated rear screen. Could this be it ?

If the glow plug relay was sticking should the pilot light illuminate on the dash ?
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BigMike



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Assuming you have electric windows check the contacts and cables and switches. Also check your main earth strap and overall have a good look at the battery and its connections/cables.
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cradgebank



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Bad plate in the Battery ??? Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5
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wslr



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It could be a sticking brake switch on the master cylinder.
Post #97791 2nd Nov 2011 9:39pm
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df1



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Thanks for all the input so far, I'll have a try of these this evening.

Can the likes of the brake light switch flatten the battery even when the ignition is off ?
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AndrewS



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leeds wrote:
or sticky relay on glow plugs?

Brendan


Gets my vote Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #97949 3rd Nov 2011 7:29pm
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df1



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I think I might have found the problem (not sure).

If I leave the radio on when I stop it seems to drain the battery.

The radio seems to switch off when I turn off the key all right though.

When I tried it by leaving the radio on the battery flattened, could this be coincidental ?

It's a single disk CD player type.
Post #98398 6th Nov 2011 11:54am
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leeds



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A radio draining a battery overnight?

Say 16 hours and typical 68 Amphr battery taken down to say 1/3 DOD would mean your radio is drawing about 3 amps per hour.

Seems to me to be rather a arge current draw for a radio which is nominally off

Possible I suppose if your battery is on the way out, but I think I would carry on looking for other reasons.

Brendan
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df1



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Kinda thought as much but just wasn't sure, thanks for the pointers.

Removed the relay for the rear window heater yesterday, so I'll see how that goes for a while.
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df1



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leeds wrote:
or sticky relay on glow plugs?

Brendan


Which relay is for the glow plugs ?

Is it the small relay in the ECU compartment ?
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df1



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I removed one of the relays under the seat, which appears to be causing the drain.

The relay is AMR 3773

After doing this the following fault codes showed up:

10-6 MIL Lamp drive open load - LOGGED
10-7 Glowplug Lamp Drive Open - LOGGED.

Does this mean anything to anyone ?


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JSG



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df1 wrote:
I removed one of the relays under the seat, which appears to be causing the drain.

The relay is AMR 3778

After doing this the following fault codes showed up:

10-6 MIL Lamp drive open load - LOGGED
10-7 Glowplug Lamp Drive Open - LOGGED.

Does this mean anything to anyone ?


I'm guessing that is the glow plug relay from the fault codes. Try a new relay in there and see if it solves the problem. John

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