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Zed



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Ianh wrote:
Has anyone asked Allisport about water ingress into their airbox, I highlighted this on page 2 of this topic as it does happen with the Nugget Stuff airbox if you have a wing side or wing top air intake and the Allisport one looks functionally the same, I.e no water separator or drain fitted.

Ianh wrote:

Note: one issue that some have encountered when changing out the old airbox and intake pipe for a nugget one is during heavy rain moisture, in some cases a lot of water, gets into the airbox and soaks the filter and builds up in the bottom of the airbox ( a very bad thing).
This happens if the standard side or wing top is used for the new air intake pipe as there is no water separator or airbox drain fitted. As the Alisport solution does not have a moisture separator or airbox drain this could also cause moisture / water ingress during heavy rain.

The solution is to fit an RAI / snorkel with a cyclonic filter at the top.

So something to think on and ask Alisport about


The Allisport doesn’t have a water separator but I haven’t had a problem with water ingress with it. Mind you, I didn’t with my Nuggetstuff either. Both used the wing side vent. WARNING.
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jst



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Ianh wrote:
Has anyone asked Allisport about water ingress into their airbox, I highlighted this on page 2 of this topic as it does happen with the Nugget Stuff airbox if you have a wing side or wing top air intake and the Allisport one looks functionally the same, I.e no water separator or drain fitted.

Ianh wrote:

Note: one issue that some have encountered when changing out the old airbox and intake pipe for a nugget one is during heavy rain moisture, in some cases a lot of water, gets into the airbox and soaks the filter and builds up in the bottom of the airbox ( a very bad thing).
This happens if the standard side or wing top is used for the new air intake pipe as there is no water separator or airbox drain fitted. As the Alisport solution does not have a moisture separator or airbox drain this could also cause moisture / water ingress during heavy rain.

The solution is to fit an RAI / snorkel with a cyclonic filter at the top.

So something to think on and ask Alisport about


Interestingly when I looked inside my current totally standard lr intake system and the filter box yesterday there was water in the webs below the filter. The water drain just inside the wing inlet was not blocked and also dripping.

My 130 has a nugget stuff side wing box and nugget air intake pipe to std air box. Think I will check that too.

Wing mount looks standard which I like.

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James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #1019892 2nd Jan 2024 8:39pm
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andy63 wrote:
Thanks for that..👍

Is anyone able to post the dimensions of their filter or the make supplied with the kit..


When I looked up the numbers in the one in the pic it linked to a Ridex brand one. I’m sure the dims were there. Ridex is Autodoc’s own brand so I’m sure it’ll cross reference numerous others. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Ianh wrote:
Has anyone asked Allisport about water ingress into their airbox, I highlighted this on page 2 of this topic as it does happen with the Nugget Stuff airbox if you have a wing side or wing top air intake and the Allisport one looks functionally the same, I.e no water separator or drain fitted.


You will need to include a centrifugal precleaner if you want to avoid water ingress. I don't think any of the aftermarket filter boxes include separators so unless you provide an external separator you will get a soggy filter under wet conditions.


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If an external centrifuge bothers you you would be better off sticking with a standard unmodified airbox and upgrading just the pipework from wing to airbox.

I've never found even a hint of water in my Nuggetstuff filter housing (although it have ingested a surprising number of wasps this year).
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Zed



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Wing mount looks standard which I like.

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I like it a lot, also less restrictive than the original. It doesn’t look at all standard to me though. Not only is the design very different it sits more proud than OE. The rubber grommity things for the screws are a nice touch, even though I kept dropping one while pulling the hose through! Only issue is my OCD because it doesn’t match the wing tops… WARNING.
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Well its been in a while now, i can post up some fitting pics? normal driving no noticeable increase in intake noise to me when in the vehicle. normal driving no massive immediate gains felt. towing yes it seems you can hold a gear for longer and it will pull a higher gear with less rpms. first longish trip yesterday, 180 miles sat at 65 up and back less the 18 miles of town driving avg 32.7 on scan gauge and 32.5 on actual fill. didnt do that before at 65mph. more like 29mpg.

nothing else really changed on vehicle. there were three of us in it not 4 but then no dogs with us yesterday but otherwise loaded similar Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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Daphne



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I fitted a nugget stuff one on mine with the intake pipe work kit, easy to fit took about 2 hours.
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jst



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Have one on my 110, have a spare nugget kit here too if anyone is looking. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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jst wrote:
Well its been in a while now, i can post up some fitting pics? normal driving no noticeable increase in intake noise to me when in the vehicle. normal driving no massive immediate gains felt. towing yes it seems you can hold a gear for longer and it will pull a higher gear with less rpms. first longish trip yesterday, 180 miles sat at 65 up and back less the 18 miles of town driving avg 32.7 on scan gauge and 32.5 on actual fill. didnt do that before at 65mph. more like 29mpg.

nothing else really changed on vehicle. there were three of us in it not 4 but then no dogs with us yesterday but otherwise loaded similar


With a circa 10% increase in MPG it should pay for itself in a couple of years if you do 10k miles p.a Very Happy

Have you driven in any heavy rain for a reasonable distance ? i’m Still obsessing on water ingress into the airbox Rolling with laughter
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