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CapeLandy



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
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Gearbox Rattle
Hi all

I had my clutch replaced about 5 months ago to eliminate a rattle at low revs especially in low range.
At a recent day offroading I noticed that rattle is either back or still there. More so when the gearbox oil is nice and warm.
Has anyone els actually had that chatter dissapear completely when the revised clutch was fitted?
It makes the most noise when taking off in 2n'nd low up a gradient.
I have booked her in on Monday for them to look at it and the items below
Just for Interest: Clutch Fluid Level dropping
Oil leak at drain on bellhousing
Rattle in Gearbox
Rear door water leak
Handbreak drum suspected oval and rubs constantly
Let's hope I get her back still this year Neutral Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #6848 4th Feb 2009 9:15am
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
Mine was replaced 5k miles ago and is still ok however you might like me have had your clutch replaced with one the same and not the new modified one which came out I think end of august 2008. This being the case it may need replacement again.

Boy
Post #6849 4th Feb 2009 9:25am
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CapeLandy



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mine was definately the new sort as it was from the UK and I had to wait 2 weeks before it arrived. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #6854 4th Feb 2009 9:41am
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
CapeLandy wrote:
mine was definately the new sort as it was from the UK and I had to wait 2 weeks before it arrived.


You could be right but when I had mine done I had to wait two weeks too as well but it was the earlyer type that was fitted. If your was the post August 08 and it is going already then this is a bit of a worry!
Post #6857 4th Feb 2009 9:53am
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
Just checked my diary and it went into the dealers on the 30th May 07 and was ready on the 17th June.
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shorty



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South Africa 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Chawton White
Hi Cape Landy

My 90 tdci has been in and out with this exact same problem. Its now at Waterford. They have fitted a brand new transfer box and now i am awaiting the new clutch assembly, thrust bearing. I hope it solves the problem. The parts will take four weeks to arrive. As soon as they do il let you know if all is well. In the mean time ill just have to keep thrashing the D3 Land Rover SA have given me. Land Rover's don't leak oil, they simply mark their territory!
Post #6882 4th Feb 2009 7:16pm
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CapeLandy



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Hi Shorty
Hi Shorty

how loud was your 90's gearbox noise?
Mine is just a strange rattle sound - I was thinking of removing the center tunnel so one can hear it better when taking it to LR to hear.
They did admit the first time I took it that the noise was not normal.
I am planning a trip to Botswana in late June so I had better make sure they fix it by then. Did your dealer do a lot of side stepping before admitting the t-case had to be changed?

Rgds
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #6899 5th Feb 2009 6:28am
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Fontuin



Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
Mine also has a slight intemittent rattling type of sound that seems to come from some where around the transmision tunnel, I have accepted that it has something to do with a system in the engine bay, ABS, antistall, injectors or a pump of sorts because it happens when the engine is under load, like you say, pulling away on a slight incline in second, I hear mine a lot when manuvering a heavy trailer at low speed or when driving slowly on the farm where there are rocks and holes that slow my progress also when idling in 1st gear in traffic.

It is espcially obvious when driving slowly in thick sand.

I did have the clutch rattle but that was different and easy to diagnose, the clutch would rattle at idle while standing still at times and when the vehicle was switched off it would turn of with very noisy rattle that could be heard from quite some distance away from outside the vehicle , they raplaced the clutch and that rattle is gone.

I don't know if it is the same rattle, just a thought, maybe nothing to worry about?
Post #6901 5th Feb 2009 7:54am
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shorty



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the sound of the rattle is very faint almost like a high pitch jingle. you can hear it quite consistently when you hit the highway and take it to about 100 - 120 km/h and then ease off the accelerator. The clutch jingles all the time. The guys at Waterford showed me the dissembled clutch with disintegrated springs which now makes a lot of sense. but the faint jingle is defiantly the transfer box which thankfully has been replaced. Just waiting for clutch assembly to arrive and be fitted before i can test it. I was initially pushed from pillar to post but one phone call to Land Rover SA and all was sorted. i bought the vehicle in April 2008 since then ive done 20 000km and the car has been to the dealership on a monthly basis with issues since new. getting quite fed up now. Land Rover's don't leak oil, they simply mark their territory!
Post #6902 5th Feb 2009 8:38am
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CapeLandy



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looks like this post is becoming a Souf Africun complaint department Wink
My sound is more like Fontuin's description and not a problem at high speeds.
My clutch being already sorted means it must be gearbox or t-case related.
Wait and see what LR have to say.
I also noted last night that my one break pipe is nearly worn right through on the heat shield Shocked
Nother addition to the list Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #6903 5th Feb 2009 8:51am
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Bundubasher



Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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South Africa 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
My clutch was a nightmare. Bit like a Pitt Bull when you did a gear change or pulled off. Could not pull off smoothely and gears grated a bit during gear change. It made a terrible noise at low rpm. It was replaced 10 000 ks ago and now the vehicle drives like a dream. It seems like some of you guys have not had the same pleasing results that I have had. I say that we should bring back the DEATH PENALTY for LR mechanics that cannot service our vehicles properly.
Post #6909 5th Feb 2009 11:58am
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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
There would be none left!
Post #6910 5th Feb 2009 12:04pm
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Fontuin



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
CapeLandy wrote:
I also noted last night that my one break pipe is nearly worn right through on the heat shield Shocked
Nother addition to the list


Thhis problem is on a bulliten and should be done pro-actively by the dealer at a service.
Post #6973 6th Feb 2009 8:49pm
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Bear



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Java Black
Gearbox Rattle
Had all the changes made to my 07 clutch: Fews even put in the new sump without asking. Still getting the old rattles and vibration after 50 k or so. Really frustrating 'cos just 1 finger on the gearstick stops both...not always a good idea to drive one handed though. Embarassed
Post #18492 17th Nov 2009 8:16pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Go back the Dealer and get it sorted Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #18493 17th Nov 2009 8:36pm
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