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badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

Exhaust fumes/connection

Hi all,

Defender-noob here so go easy!

Just bought my first at the weekend - 1996, had a replacement 300TDI engine put in it a few years back.

The previous owner didn't give it much love of late - low oil, coolant, power steering fluid etc etc so I've done all those bits.

I've noticed it gets mighty stinky when driving so on a further bit of investigation noticed the exhaust isn't connected - see the attached photo.

I've tried loosening off the bolt and pushing them back together but there's a fair bit of resistance.

Any support/tips would be great. Being new to this there is plenty to learn.

Cheers,

Will

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5th Apr 2023 8:09am

I Like Old Skool

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Manchester
Posts: 766

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Coniston Green

Pretty sure that is the 200tdi manifold/exhaust. The 300tdi has a 3 stud triangular flange that the down pipe mounts to. If I remember correctly the 200tdi downpipe also bolts to the engine block via a bracket midway down the frontpipe so it could be this that is stopping you from moving the exhaust into the correct position?

5th Apr 2023 8:31am

I Like Old Skool

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Manchester
Posts: 766

By the way, I guess this also means you have the 200tdi engine?

5th Apr 2023 8:32am

badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

Thanks for the replies - I am still trying to get to the bottom of the story. The garage paperwork just says 'engine'!

Can I loosen off the bracket, loosen off these bolts, slot if back on and do everything up again? Does it need a bit of grease to create a seal?

Cheers

5th Apr 2023 8:35am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

Can you share wider picture of the engine bay? Darren

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5th Apr 2023 8:39am

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3210

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

200tdi had top mounted turbo on a Defender, similar setup as the 19J with exhaust above inlet manifold. Different from a 300.

Interesting the location of the EGT probe. Would that not be cooler after the turbo (expansion from turbine)? 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

5th Apr 2023 8:57am

badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

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Here you go

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5th Apr 2023 9:00am

htb2

Member Since: 02 Nov 2018
Location: aberdeenshire
Posts: 510

200 Tdi, defender spec for sure.

5th Apr 2023 9:35am

badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

A quick scrabble around underneath to look at the other part of the exhaust reveals it isn't attached.

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5th Apr 2023 11:55am

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3210

There is a triangular coupling further down the exhaust pipe. You might have to loosen the 3 bolts just enough so that you can lift the down pipe enough to connect to the turbo outlet pipe. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

5th Apr 2023 2:08pm

Mdm

Member Since: 11 Sep 2013
Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 1528

they are always fun to get them to line up.

best way is on a ramp.

with a proper downpipe clamp (new)

loosen all the exhaust and work your way down from the front to the back aligning as you go .

the downpipe bolts rarely line up on aftermarket exhausts

5th Apr 2023 2:46pm

badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

Thanks - is this a relatively easy job? Also, that bottom part isn't bolted to anything so it's just going to rattle loose I think - are there specific bolts to re-attach this?

Thanks for taking the time to help.

5th Apr 2023 4:29pm

badshotleigh

Member Since: 03 Apr 2023
Location: Hook
Posts: 15

If anyone could help me out with the bolt sizes for re-attaching that would be great - I think they should be m10s? m10 50s?

Cheers

5th Apr 2023 6:18pm

I Like Old Skool

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Manchester
Posts: 766

Mdm wrote:

with a proper downpipe clamp (new)

That is the proper clamp, and looks in reasonable condition. Maybe just get a new bolt for it if the old one is suffering?

6th Apr 2023 1:41am

I Like Old Skool

Member Since: 23 Feb 2015
Location: Manchester
Posts: 766

Just looking at the engine bay pics and there's something wrong here. What year is the vehicle? That looks like a very original 200tdi engine bay installation, everything is in the correct 200tdi location, even the fuel filter on the bulkhead and the power steering bottle are different on a 300tdi. Also the fan cowling is very deep, suggesting that the gearbox is the LT77 from pre-300tdi (the 300tdi was sat much further forward, to make room for a longer R380 gearbox I believe).

Your car looks like it has always been a 200tdi so would not be a 1996 vehicle unless it has had an odd military past or been a LR factory vehicle before being registered?

6th Apr 2023 1:55am

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