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peanutbob



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Corrosion on rail above crossmember
Assistance required!
On my 12 plate 2.2 Puma 90 , there are some holes and corrosion appearing on the rail which has an aluminium appearance immediately above the crossmember and below the rubber strip above it. It’s not the aluminium strip at the edge of the load area.
The rail is attached by 6 anodised torx screws I think, some of which are causing electrolytic corrosion .
Question is - what is the part no and where to purchase it. Is it simply a case of undoing the torx screws and also replacing these with stainless steel or similar?

Thanks!
Post #984410 4th Mar 2023 9:39pm
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TomB8



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Arles Blue
I don't have experience with later models (not much with older ones either, yet!) so someone else may be better placed to answer, but it's not part no.10 here?: https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...head_44863

You should be able to get the part number from lrworkshop if it isn't the link above.

My understanding is that stainless is worse for galvanic corrosion, so best to use normal screws, put some grease in the holes and use nylon washers to reduce steel to ally contact
Post #984419 4th Mar 2023 11:40pm
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I think your right saying no#10 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS.
Post #984420 4th Mar 2023 11:46pm
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peanutbob



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Many thanks for the replies…perfect!
Post #984433 5th Mar 2023 9:31am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Mind that is not that easy to replace that aluminum rail, as it is ‘integral’ with the tub with lots of spot welds.
Probably the source of the galvanic corrosion is the steel ange bar which connects that rail to the crossmember. I have been wanting to remove that mounting angle bar to get it galvanized and prevent the issue that you are talking about. But unsure how difficult it is with the tub in situe. Hence I have been postponing the job. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #984435 5th Mar 2023 9:54am
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
As Dinnu says, that 'rail' is an integral part of the tub and difficult to replace without at least lifting the rear of the tub up, away from the crossmember.

It depends on how bad it is but if it were mine I'd try and effect a repair in situ. This could be, for example, drilling out the existing holes to a larger diameter to remove the corrosion and then plating over with small sections of flat aluminium, pre-drilled with appropriate holes. Fix with Sikaflex and then repaint in to match and it'd be quite unobtrusive.

For the bolts, on mine I've swapped them for stainless but isolated them from the aluminium with nylon washers and a dab of Duralac:


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 Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

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Post #984438 5th Mar 2023 10:35am
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Scotm



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Scotland 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey
I have done the same as Darren on my 2012 and no sign of corrosion yet. I also remove the bolts once to liberally spray through the holes and between the aluminium and steel with ACF50
Post #984439 5th Mar 2023 10:51am
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peanutbob



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I’ll be going for the in situ version 😂
Thanks!
Post #984442 5th Mar 2023 11:27am
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Cragster69



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Cairns Blue
I also have this problem.

Found this replacement part from YRM
https://yrmit.co.uk/product/rear-body-moun...series-23/

and another option
https://www.bits4landys.co.uk/s2s3_90_rearbody_angle_330271.htm

I'm currently working my way through the rusted and seized original Torx bolts, I snapped an easy out and had to use a 6mm diamond hole saw to get through the hardened steel.
I wasn't sure how easy it would be to replace once all the bolts are removed, it looks like there is an angle bracket in each corner that is spot welded and how much upward movement of the body would be needed or could be achieved. Craig.

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Post #984590 6th Mar 2023 3:42pm
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Oldowner



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Aintree Green
It is caused by road salt and mud collecting on the upper section of the tub mounting rail and reacting the with alloy, not caused by the bolts used. Tub has to be removed completely to replace the rail, I’ve done plenty over the years.

Replacement tub mounting rails are available with only tabs where required (like the old pre td5 tabs, but on a rail), not continuous angle which prevents this corrosion from occurring.

Tub below had replacement rear panels too which makes the rail replacement easier.



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Post #984604 6th Mar 2023 5:12pm
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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Mine is also going rusty. I’ve been on the website and think it’s this.

https://yrmit.co.uk/product/body-chassis-m...der-later/

If so is it a straightforward job?
Post #984607 6th Mar 2023 6:11pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
You would need to lift the tub by just a little bit, but enough to maneuver the bracket from under the quarter panels. I think 10mm would suffice. I have no idea how flexible the body is (doors open) is to let you do the job however. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
RobKeay wrote:
Mine is also going rusty. I’ve been on the website and think it’s this.

https://yrmit.co.uk/product/body-chassis-m...der-later/

If so is it a straightforward job?

That's the mounting rail that's bolted to the crossmember and is the part that the visible ali section under the door is bolted to. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

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Post #984661 7th Mar 2023 9:32am
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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Thought it was. That section is very rusty on mine now.
Post #984663 7th Mar 2023 9:37am
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