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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16858   
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They work really well and result in much better illumination, however under ECE law they are illegal and the UK has recently become quite strict on this. You'd have to find out how zealous the enforcement regime in your area is and decide if it's worth the risk.
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29th Dec 2022 7:44pm |
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| nicolas0505 Member Since: 23 Dec 2020 Location: briançon Posts: 79 
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also live in an area with snow in the winter. so you need led bulbs that heat the headlight. After as long as it does not dazzle people who arrive in front of it, it should pass.
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29th Dec 2022 7:54pm |
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| strang Member Since: 16 May 2012 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1362 
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I think all LED headlight bulbs are illegal. Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond.....
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29th Dec 2022 8:00pm |
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| Race.it Member Since: 27 Aug 2019 Location: Algeciras Posts: 741  
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I watched a video the other day about this in Spain, they recently changed the law you can fit a h4 homologated led bulb with not issues, the issue is no company actually makes a homologated h4 bulb all the ones for sale are not homologated and hence illegal to fit. Searching for my first Defender...and started just as Covid hit, so talk about timing.
5 months after starting the search I found it, and here is the details |
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29th Dec 2022 8:10pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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Not on anything built pre 1985, totally legal. |
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29th Dec 2022 8:17pm |
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| nicolas0505 Member Since: 23 Dec 2020 Location: briançon Posts: 79
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at one time I rode with 100w bulbs even passed the technical control and no problem. I saw at philips, osram h4 led but I'm afraid of being disappointed by the performance. I don't think it should in danger other road users.what does the h4 led beam do?
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29th Dec 2022 8:30pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5416 
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Got these LEDs fitted in my crystal headlights. They are super bright and passed a few MOTs
https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/products/...sion-9-32v |
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29th Dec 2022 10:42pm |
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| strang Member Since: 16 May 2012 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1362
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Ah - I didn't know that. I might get some for my Series One in that case. Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond..... |
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30th Dec 2022 5:53pm |
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| nicolas0505 Member Since: 23 Dec 2020 Location: briançon Posts: 79
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How its going when its snowing with the led bulbs?
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31st Dec 2022 11:50am |
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| MatLandy Member Since: 11 Sep 2020 Location: Paris Posts: 176 
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Just a note that OSRAM has recently released a Night Breaker H4 LED lamp which is street legal, to replace H4 halogen lamp, for certain country/vehicles only.
Product Number is 64193DWNB, they are more expensive than other H4 LED lamps which do not bear the proper approvals for road use. The legality of retrofitting Night Breaker H4 LED lamps being country and vehicle dependent, the approved list is available from OSRAM directly : https://www.osram.com/am/night-breaker-led.jsp and https://www.osram.de/am/night-breaker-led/.../ledcheck/ So, while it is illegal to retrofit these new Night Breaker H4 LED lamps in the UK, it is fully legal to do so on a classic Defender in Germany ! I am in France, and the Defender is not listed for my country. Anyway, I am happy enough with the fact they are approved for use in Germany, and fitted them a few weeks ago. Both countries are in Europe so I don't see why it should be a problem. Very happy with the result. Not tested in icy/snowy conditions yet though... /Mat |
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1st Jan 2023 6:40pm |
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| nicolas0505 Member Since: 23 Dec 2020 Location: briançon Posts: 79
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I think I'm going to take the led night breakers and have them adjusted and as it's the winter season I'll see what happens at worst I'll put rain x on the lenses
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10th Jan 2023 9:54pm |
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| Martyn668 Member Since: 17 Mar 2013 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 134
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Typical of the UK government to ban a product only a year or two before a fully-tested, approved (in some countries of the EU) product becomes available. It took them ages to ban it. How long before they approve this?
I'm not a fan of any of the current 7" LED headlights, purely from an aesthetic point of view. They all just look a bit plastic and space-age for a Defender, but the day the UK government approves these bulbs for use, I'm buying a pair. So if I put a penny a week aside, I should have enough saved up by that time. |
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11th Jan 2023 2:41pm |
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| strang Member Since: 16 May 2012 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1362
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Talking of 'space age' looking LED headlights, I have just become aware of these - https://www.holley.com/products/electrical...ts/LFRB135
Ideal for early Defender and Series Land Rovers maybe...... Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond..... |
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11th Jan 2023 5:24pm |
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| Martyn668 Member Since: 17 Mar 2013 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 134
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Something like that would be good if they did a RHD version with CE marking, but the market is too small I fear.
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12th Jan 2023 9:22am |
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