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lightning



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l will pass that on, thank you for the information
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Defendit..



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lightning wrote:
My dealer is also saying they can't find the part.

Hopefully the wiring is present otherwise l'll have to fit the aftermarket kit.


Right, they can't find the part or wireloom. That's why I post a correct VIN above so they can dig deeper. No Mud flaps for my 90.!
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Post #973003 30th Nov 2022 10:53pm
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lightning



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Still waiting for a response from the dealer, and from Land Rover.

l had a call from Land Rover saying they would "look into it"
Apparently the dealer is trying to find out if the harness/connector is still in place and Land Rover just deleted the switch.

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Post #973489 5th Dec 2022 5:03pm
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RFT wrote:
If you had stuck with a puma you’d never run out of air or running water no mater how long you were locked in for, leaks save lives!! 😂


More likely die of drowning! Same in my Td5
Post #973508 5th Dec 2022 7:43pm
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lightning



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Land Rover and the dealer have both gone quiet regarding this tailgate release switch

l still think it's a serious safety concern.

l sent an email to the salesperson who dealt with my vehicle last Friday, asking for an update, and (contrary to the normal response) have had no reply at all.

l had one phone call from my LR customer service "case manager" at the end of November but nothing since.
Post #975184 19th Dec 2022 10:20pm
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lightning



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Looks like l am the only one who is concerned about this safety issue.

Dealer and LR still silent, no response to further emails.

Anyone with a 2022/3 90 Commercial make sure the rear door can never close when you are in the load space because if it does, you won't get out unless someone opens the door from the outside.
lt's okay on the flat but beware if you park facing downhill.

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Post #975992 29th Dec 2022 6:46pm
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Moo



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Raise it with HSE.
Post #975993 29th Dec 2022 6:47pm
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lightning



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l may do, what if a child was to get trapped in the vehicle and they didn't have a phone with them. Or if you were in the middle of nowhere, the only way out would be to smash the rear window, if you had something heavy enough to do that.

What's the procedure for raising the issue with HSE?
Post #975994 29th Dec 2022 6:50pm
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Uptoyouraxles



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got my 90HT early November and I have a rear door release, took a while to find it but look on the LHS where the rear setbelt should have been.....



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Post #976057 30th Dec 2022 12:36pm
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Co1



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It’s a bit off topic, but from your pics above, can the window panels be unscrewed and removed to reveal the window, or is there more to it?
Cheers
Col
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Uptoyouraxles



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the panels come off but the glass has a thick film on the inside with fixings glued to it and there are some form of antenna also stuck to the glass.

So you could liberate some space but I guess the pastic protects the glass from impacts for any loose items in the cargo area.....
Post #976059 30th Dec 2022 12:49pm
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lightning



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Censored me, l'm an idiot
My only defence is that the dealer didn't know it was there either




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Post #976064 30th Dec 2022 1:33pm
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Uptoyouraxles



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It's alright my dealer did not know it was there either and I only found it when exploring my rear area in more detail Shocked
Post #976068 30th Dec 2022 1:56pm
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lightning



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Thank you for the heads up, the dealer and Land Rover had gone silent and my next step was going to be contacting HSE
Post #976072 30th Dec 2022 2:23pm
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Co1



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Uptoyouraxles wrote:
the panels come off but the glass has a thick film on the inside with fixings glued to it and there are some form of antenna also stuck to the glass.

So you could liberate some space but I guess the pastic protects the glass from impacts for any loose items in the cargo area.....


Thanks.
Post #976127 31st Dec 2022 8:58am
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