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Harty

Member Since: 20 Feb 2021
Location: London
Posts: 24

Think it's charging, but isn't - PodPoint, BP Pulse ...

Hi all,

I have a defender phev. Works fine charging at home with wall charger - plug in, lock car, brilliant.

Whenever go out and find a charger, we download app, create account, load money onto account, following instruction on charger and from downloaded app, plug car in with Defender cable, press charge on app. Defender plug socket flashes green, car locks itself, but then after 3-4 mins, the light turns white and car doesn't charge.

This has happened 5 or 6 times. It has charged once with BP Pulse in Canary Wharf, but hasn't worked numerous other times we've tried with BP Pulse or Pod Point.

Any ideas, as getting incredibly frustrating now.

Thanks,

Harty

12th Jul 2022 3:35pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2520

This is why after testing a Velar PHEV I have arranged with the local dealer to test drive the MHEV version tomorrow so the wife can decide what she wants to do before her current agreement finishes next year.

I have zero patients with the thought of either waiting for a charger to be free or just not working.

And I thought the PHEV Velar in petrol mode was savagely underpowered with crap fuel economy and felt bloated because of the weight of a dead battery pack.

I feel sorry for you but again it typical of the leadership of this country, they want change but don’t think that the resources have to be in place first.

12th Jul 2022 5:37pm

pjm-84

Member Since: 12 Apr 2021
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 640

Just not worth doing on a hybrid system to be honest. The BMW approach reinforces this by reducing the charge rate to 16amp (so 1hr charge = 3.68kw).

If the P400e is circa 1.7miles a kW and you're paying 35p then it works out about 43mpg in petrol equivalent.

Hence its not worth doing.

12th Jul 2022 5:51pm

Harty

Member Since: 20 Feb 2021
Location: London
Posts: 24

I have solar panels, so is often free charging for me. Also, it works 100% when charging at home - I must be doing something stupid when out.

12th Jul 2022 6:32pm

peanutbob

Member Since: 12 Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 276

Re: Think it's charging, but isn't - PodPoint, BP Pulse ...

Harty wrote:
Hi all,

I have a defender phev. Works fine charging at home with wall charger - plug in, lock car, brilliant.

Whenever go out and find a charger, we download app, create account, load money onto account, following instruction on charger and from downloaded app, plug car in with Defender cable, press charge on app. Defender plug socket flashes green, car locks itself, but then after 3-4 mins, the light turns white and car doesn't charge.

This has happened 5 or 6 times. It has charged once with BP Pulse in Canary Wharf, but hasn't worked numerous other times we've tried with BP Pulse or Pod Point.

Any ideas, as getting incredibly frustrating now.

Sorry to butt in….if the car locks itself on charging, does that mean all windows inc doors are fully immobilised? I was thinking about what happens if you have dogs in the car and have to wait for a charge to complete? I worry about leaving them in the car on a hot day with the windows open even when grabbing a sandwich!

Thanks,

Harty

12th Jul 2022 6:50pm

Harty

Member Since: 20 Feb 2021
Location: London
Posts: 24

If I leave a window open, car locks automatically, then alarm will go off after a couple of mins.

12th Jul 2022 6:53pm

peanutbob

Member Since: 12 Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 276

Thanks! That’s a concern, but the next question ref plug in hybrids and fully electric vehicles, is can the climate control run whilst the car is charging? I assume manufacturers have already catered for this situation, but this would elongate the charging time quite substantially.
I understand the security implications of not having the vehicle fully locked during charging, but unless climate control is enabled during the charging period, it means wandering around service stations with pets in tow!

12th Jul 2022 7:41pm

pjm-84

Member Since: 12 Apr 2021
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 640

Harty wrote:
I have solar panels, so is often free charging for me. Also, it works 100% when charging at home - I must be doing something stupid when out.

Snap, but you're missing my point.

I charge the BMW overnight at 20p a kW and at the weekend during the day on the PVs, if sunny, at a slower rate.

Away from home there is little point putting the vehicle on charge, unless its free, or a longer duration. However that said I still probably wouldn't put it on charging point as it take up a charging facility for an EV car that ,to be frank, has less flexibilty without an engine. ( I note the P400e has the ability to rapid charge)

Note when I unlock the BMW the charging stops.

12th Jul 2022 8:31pm

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