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ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue

What's "normal"?

Please help stop my paranoia! I need an overview. I have a 2011 Defender 110 and would like to know if it's "normal" for...

1) a significant "clank" when changing gear, especially between 1st and 2nd; and
2) 3rd gear to "snatch" when engaging.

The dealer here (Germany) is pretty hopeless - just wants to sell me an Evoque

My Dad had a 200 (?) in the '80s and I remember it was pretty rough but what should I expect now?
Loads of thanks for any input.
Cheers,
Matt

16th Sep 2011 5:46pm

iruffell

Member Since: 03 Sep 2010
Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire
Posts: 343

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Fairly normal I'm afraid

16th Sep 2011 5:48pm

Peter Td4

Member Since: 23 Oct 2010
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
Posts: 227

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Santorini Black

Hi Matt,

Question is what to consider as significant ?
Do you hear this when shifting gears or when engaging the clutch ?
Is the sound coming from right between the front seats or elsewhere (rear) ?

How many kilometers have you done with this Defender ?

Some noise is indeed pretty normal, I tend to use the clutch as gentle as possible

. Peter,

Defender 110 StaWa - Td5
Defender 110 HCPU - Puma
Defender 90 Soft Top - Td5

16th Sep 2011 6:26pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

Insist on a clutch change, it makes a big improvement

Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

16th Sep 2011 6:58pm

rossy

Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
Location: Co. Roscommon
Posts: 1296

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

try changing gear slowly - not like you would in a normal car. Having read the many posts on this subject throughout the forum I change gear very slowly and deliberately. Best practice appears to be not to apply any throttle whatsoever until you have let your foot off the clutch after changing gear. It takes a bit of getting used to but if I forget and start slapping it about like my little Peugeot you can hear all manner of mechanical clonky noises ! There really ought to be a section on this in the Owners manual

16th Sep 2011 7:14pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2262

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

Maybe it is the friction plate on its way to die Puma 110" SW

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16th Sep 2011 7:23pm

ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

Gawd bless you all sirs!
Clank comes when engaging clutch(can feel it through the gearstick) , "snatch" comes when changing into 3rd gear.
It's only done 5000 miles so I was wondering...
My mind is at rest for now and I will clutch/change gear really carefully but I will also bear in mind the advice about knackered clutch plate etc. With a few years guarantee there's still plenty of time for things to go "properly" wrong...
Have a good weekend,
Matt

16th Sep 2011 7:51pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6264

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I completely agree with Rossy

reprogramme the grey matter and don't drive it like another other car (modern) that you may have experienced

16th Sep 2011 8:24pm

LR09WA

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 88

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Re: What's "normal"?

ZeDefender wrote:
Please help stop my paranoia! I need an overview. I have a 2011 Defender 110 and would like to know if it's "normal" for...

1) a significant "clank" when changing gear, especially between 1st and 2nd; and
2) 3rd gear to "snatch" when engaging.

The dealer here (Germany) is pretty hopeless - just wants to sell me an Evoque

My Dad had a 200 (?) in the '80s and I remember it was pretty rough but what should I expect now?
Loads of thanks for any input.
Cheers,
Matt

Ask for the the transfer case to be re-shimmed, this seems to be fixing much of the slack in the drive line here in OZ, certainly sorted my drive line clunking...

Last edited by LR09WA on 18th Sep 2011 1:51am. Edited 1 time in total

17th Sep 2011 1:41am

Tompoole

Member Since: 05 Jun 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 822

Best way to drive a defender is keep foot on brake when
Letting clutch out until biting point is reached, then release
Brake to apply acceleration removing clutch foot at same time Have fun be happy

17th Sep 2011 9:17am

ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

Tompoole wrote:
Best way to drive a defender is keep foot on brake when
Letting clutch out until biting point is reached, then release
Brake to apply acceleration removing clutch foot at same time

Wow - thanks - I will go and practice

Matt

17th Sep 2011 3:40pm

double cab happy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2009
Location: merseyside
Posts: 573

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black

ZeDefender wrote:
Tompoole wrote:
Best way to drive a defender is keep foot on brake when
Letting clutch out until biting point is reached, then release
Brake to apply acceleration removing clutch foot at same time

Wow - thanks - I will go and practice

Matt

not only is this a good way to do a hill start and is taught by land rover experence, it means that even with a full load and a big trailer the anti-stall keeps every thing nice and calm and under control.

17th Sep 2011 4:19pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

To put it simply drive it like a truck and not like a sports car, racing changes will make the drive train as slack as my granny's knicker elastic in no time. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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17th Sep 2011 4:57pm

ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

Miserableolgit wrote:
To put it simply drive it like a truck and not like a sports car, racing changes will make the drive train as slack as my granny's knicker elastic in no time.

I do but it still snatches 3rd

17th Sep 2011 5:19pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2591

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

ZeDefender wrote:
Miserableolgit wrote:
To put it simply drive it like a truck and not like a sports car, racing changes will make the drive train as slack as my granny's knicker elastic in no time.

I do but it still snatches 3rd

Mine has been doing that since new, now on 28Kkm. I am now threatening LRSA with legal action if they do not fix it, and suggested replacing the gearbox --
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18th Sep 2011 10:34am

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