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rossy



Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
paranoid about factory fill oils
I had intended to change the gearbox and Tbox oils for SMXs and Syntrax straightaway.

The reason being I hear of so many Gbox issues that I have visions of the factory guys squirting in synchro - knackering GL5 everywhere cos they can't be bothered to select the correct spec for each application.

Then I thought stop being so paranoid. Wait for a year and then do it.

Does anyone know how quality control is managed in this regard at Lode Lane. Is it possible to put the wrong oil in or am I being over suspicious ?

And are the props greased during production - they look a bit dry to me?

thanks in advance
Post #84013 12th Aug 2011 10:13am
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RED-DOT



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Props are not greased in production but only have a smear applied to the inner pins to aid assembly and if you are lucky you will have grease nipples fitted as mine had two missing and the two that were fitted were dry.. do not wait to 1st service as the damage is done by then. Dealers don't grease on PDi... 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #84035 12th Aug 2011 12:10pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
You are right. First Gbox was 2 liters overfilled! Second one, I checked before fitting it: had ATF fluid on it Cool So, yes, pour your own GL-4 75W-90 Thumbs Up Puma 110" SW

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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
It seems my 110 came from the factory with the transfer box only part full of oil. It was picked up on the first service. Topped up and now much quieter.
I contacted my dealer who asked me to take the truck in asap, I had a job in London yesterday so they could check it out, all checked out and no signs of leakage. I dropped in on them pretty much unannounced, as I was working and on tacho they got me in asap, so thanks again to Park Royal. 2011 110 USW
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Post #84095 12th Aug 2011 6:34pm
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MD5



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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
I would like to know your opinion about the Motul GEAR 300 75W-90 100% Synthetic – Ester based lubricant.

Specs: API GL4 and GL5 / MIL-L-2105D

TDS available at the following link:
http://www.motul.fr/system/product_descrip...1290086772
It's stated that the above oil is "Suitable for any type of seal and yellow material used in gearboxes design"

May I use it in both transmission and transfer unit ?

Thanking in advance for any advice!
Post #84117 12th Aug 2011 8:10pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Appears that some synth GL-5 are fine with yellow metals. Not sure if too slippery for the synchros though. Personally I would stick with the GL-4 (only). I use Shell ASXR 75W90 for everything else. Puma 110" SW

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Post #84142 12th Aug 2011 9:27pm
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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
well thats decided then. I'm going to change both oils next week. I had a good look under the car and with the help of the workshop manual that someone kindly posted a link to I found the fill and drain holes. Boy is the gearbox filler hard to access with an allen key ! - especially without ramps but if you peer across the chassis your eyes are just about level with it and a long flexible tube will be needed to fill. The Tbox filler is just about do-able with a flexible/jointed 1/2" socket but its squashed between the handbrake drum and a pipe. I've already got a sore neck from greasing the props but its all peace of mind stuff
Post #84148 12th Aug 2011 10:36pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Yes a PITA. I changed both the drain and infill plugs for normal hex brass ones Thumbs Up Puma 110" SW

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Post #84149 12th Aug 2011 10:44pm
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MD5



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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
There are some washer on the drain plug ? If yes, I must discard it and put a new one or simply reuse the old ?
Post #84157 13th Aug 2011 5:11am
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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
I can answer that one now !

No washers just 2 x 1/2" sqare drive plugs and 2 x 8mm hex plugs. Abit of thread sealant or PTFE will do no harm though
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mse



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
The factory use an automated system to fill the fluids - and as the line is single car at that point there shouldn't be any mix-ups...i can understand under and overfills; although the computer does the pouring! Mike
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Small Clanger



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Seven weeks old and 1,800 miles on mine now but, after reading this thread, I'd booked her into a local garage (recommended by other Land Rover drivers) for a check over. Just collected her, everything as it should be and she now has fresh oil and filter, nips greased and levels checked. Smile

Bought a front bumper from Duckworth Parts which arrived on Wednesday. Cut some 35mm holes in it for a pair of recovery swivels ( Flatdog 4x4, ordered at 15:05, arrived next day 08:30) and drilled some holes for spotlights ( IPF from 4x4AT.com) and then took it over to Jacksons in Yeadon to have it powder coated gloss black. Collected it this morning along with some OEM endcaps from Akers and Battle in Skipton.
Working over the week-end but might assemble it all unless I decide to get Censored instead.

I'm not planning on using the recovery swivels to get dragged out of any swamps but yesterday, as is often the case, I had 90 metres of heavy three-phase steel-wire armoured cable to pull around a farmyard/building site. Spliced the end onto a D-shackle, hooked it to towbar then lifted the drum onto a scaffy pole and dragged the cable off with the 90. So they're mainly to make that sort of thing easier.

Handy to tie a Sheep to as well.

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spudfan



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Ireland 
Hope that is not Glynn Parry's sheep you are using. He won't be too happy if it is. Rolling with laughter 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #85275 19th Aug 2011 7:48pm
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JSG



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Small Clanger wrote:
Bought a front bumper from Duckworth Parts which arrived on Wednesday. Cut some 35mm holes in it for a pair of recovery swivels ( Flatdog 4x4, ordered at 15:05, arrived next day 08:30) and drilled some holes for spotlights ( IPF from 4x4AT.com) and then took it over to Jacksons in Yeadon to have it powder coated gloss black.


I assume you know that a standard bumper (if that is what you have) will need a lot of reinforcing to use recovery points? John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS
Post #85345 20th Aug 2011 8:57am
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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
spudfan wrote:
Hope that is not Glynn Parry's sheep you are using. He won't be too happy if it is. Rolling with laughter


There was me thinking Baarbra was a one man sheep Rolling Eyes

Glyn Dog Sheep
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