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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395  
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Believe it is 40 degrees, but without a roof rack.
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25th Nov 2021 10:35pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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Knew I had it somewhere... This is from a 2010 brochure.
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25th Nov 2021 10:41pm |
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| Yannis Member Since: 02 Feb 2015 Location: Oxfordshire / Milan Posts: 402 
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Spot on. Thanks.
Still a way to go yet…. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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25th Nov 2021 10:43pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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Yup at 35-40 degrees you feel mighty vulnerable
 Usually folks have a pretty good sphincter gauge for side slopes and that is around 15 degrees  At 40 degrees your passengers look like they are about to fall down on you 
Good effort at 32  |
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25th Nov 2021 10:49pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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Just realised the Pumas were rated at 35 degrees rather than 40 degrees as with earlier defenders. Guess they really did put on weight after the TD5.
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25th Nov 2021 10:50pm |
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| Smyles_ Member Since: 26 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 512  
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Anyone know where I can find one of these?
Click image to enlarge Sideways tilty thingy, not the bloody bus! Forklift approach doesn't sit well with me before it's suggested. Stuart
Cummins 130 Build Thread 04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone) 58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue |
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26th Nov 2021 2:27am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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Good lord how strong is that bloke
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26th Nov 2021 10:16am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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No idea never seen one. However I suppose you could do this with two winch equipped vehicles placed on either side. Not quite the same but it would find the tip over point without actually tipping over the vehicle. |
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26th Nov 2021 10:18am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16874 
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There are plenty of factory photos from the early days of a similar demonstration being done using an old-style vehicle lift, the type with a central ram and an "H"-shaped platform. Two wheels on the lift, two on the ground alongside the lift, and up you go. No safety chains either, unlike the 'bus.
It's been a long time since I saw one of those lifts. Back in the late 70's I worked at a garage which still had one, along with a new-fangled four-post lift which, in comparison, was space-age technology! |
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26th Nov 2021 10:37am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4395
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What I love is the chalk drawn degrees indicator
Somehow I think we have lost something special in this modern technological world we now live in... |
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26th Nov 2021 11:21am |
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| s55shh Member Since: 30 Dec 2019 Location: staffs Posts: 184
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Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Heres one that tried more than 35 degrees! |
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26th Nov 2021 11:29am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16874
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Oops, too far!
Actually this was done carefully to allow me to weld the chassis, but it did result in some strange looks from neighbours. It was staggering how far I had to jack the offside before it went over - it actually only fell about two feet before the block tied to the roll-hoop landed on the tyre that is supporting it. Tipping it back was far more exciting because I only had to jack the roll-hoop about the same two feet back before it self-righted in a spectacular fashion. Sadly it was before the days of phones with video cameras built in so I wasn't able to capture the event. Some years after this I replaced the chassis with a new galvanised one since there really wasn't enough left to weld to of the original. |
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26th Nov 2021 12:41pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3204  
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There is a very nice, proper offroad driving technique on you tube -
At about 35mins into the video, there is a brown pants moment. That is an old 90, V8 3.5 engine with 205 tyres. Assuming the camera was level, that was at 40 degrees before it was about to tip over. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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26th Nov 2021 1:45pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1728  
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We had a tilt bed at Carmichael in Worcester, as every fire engine / crash rescue truck had to be tilt tested when complete.
Don't forget a static tilt test is worlds apart from a dynamic test where even a little irregularity on the ground or change in steering angle will dramatically reduce the tilt over angle. |
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26th Nov 2021 7:12pm |
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