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Mossberg



Member Since: 29 Feb 2020
Location: Lancs
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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Aintree Green
Defender body type
My defender 90 vin says it's body type is:-
"Pick-up, soft top or hard top"
Whilst I am outside the Greater Manchester zone, I am literally about 150m from it. My mam lives in the zone and I sometimes use the defender when I visit her or use the truck to get rid of garden waste etc. I am worried that this will be classed as a van and subject to a charge.

My truck has windows in the rear and a seat. It's not used in any way commercially.

My V5 says PLG

Where do I stand with this - can it be changed to station wagon?

Many thanks for your help.

Mick
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Is there not a web site with a number plate / vehicle checker that you can get the official answer from?

I sympathise as when family is involved it suddenly feels like this country is throwing up invisible Berlin Walls.

I fear the next marketing ploy to sell EV’s will be ‘Want to see loved ones, buy Electric’, ‘Granny is on her last legs, want to say goodbye, buy Electric’.


You did not say what year you truck is?
Post #929363 11th Nov 2021 8:48am
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Mossberg



Member Since: 29 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Aintree Green
Hi Mark.
It's a K reg (I thought 1993)but the vin decoder says July 92. But that's probably the difference between registered date and build date (decoder gives build date).
Post #929367 11th Nov 2021 9:13am
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AMBxx



Member Since: 24 Jul 2016
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
markb110 wrote:
Is there not a web site with a number plate / vehicle checker that you can get the official answer from?

Possibly an example of the least helpful website ever created: https://cleanairgm.com/

There's no licence plate checker (unlike the London version), just a is it a van or a car. It's not launched yet, so hopefully clearer in the future.
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jeffersj



Member Since: 23 Jan 2015
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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green
It sounds like you have a 200 Tdi which may have come off the production line as a Hard Top (Van) and at some stage somone has put side windows in it . I seem to remember in the dim and distant past that this changed the tax (VED) status.

Again not sure but perhaps at some time DVLA had to be notified of this change which would make it PLG. Jeff
Ex 1968 Series 2A
Ex 90 TD5
Ex D3
Ex D4
Post #929372 11th Nov 2021 10:04am
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AMBxx



Member Since: 24 Jul 2016
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Have you tried the London checker? https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/?intcmp=36576
Not sure if directly comparable, but should be a good steer.
Post #929382 11th Nov 2021 12:14pm
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Mossberg



Member Since: 29 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Aintree Green
According to that it gives the following

Green LAND ROVER 90 DEFENDER 4C
United Kingdom

Is there anywhere that tells you what the different classes are? I can't see it on that site.
Post #929400 11th Nov 2021 2:58pm
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rockster57



Member Since: 15 Nov 2014
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Re: Defender body type
Mossberg wrote:
My defender 90 vin says it's body type is:-
"Pick-up, soft top or hard top"
Whilst I am outside the Greater Manchester zone, I am literally about 150m from it. My mam lives in the zone and I sometimes use the defender when I visit her or use the truck to get rid of garden waste etc. I am worried that this will be classed as a van and subject to a charge.

My truck has windows in the rear and a seat. It's not used in any way commercially.

My V5 says PLG

Where do I stand with this - can it be changed to station wagon?

Many thanks for your help.

Mick


Mick, I’m in a very similar situation with my privately owned 2011 110 station wagon regarding the Bradford Clean Air Zone. I use it for leisure activities only (no commercial use). After making enquiries i’ve been notified for CAZ purposes, based on its taxation class being N1 (which all 2011 on Defenders are), my vehicle is hence classed as a “van” and will therefore attract the daily charge for entering the zone when it goes live in a couple of months.

There is a possibility that certain “leisure vehicles” such as motorhomes and horse boxes will qualify for exemption. That’s a work in progress for the authorities. Even if that category is accepted, I am sceptical that a home DIY based modest camper conversion would meet their requirements of leisure vehicle We shall see. Either way, I won’t sell the Defender. I just won’t visit CAZ’s wherever they spring up. I realise that eventually my vehicle will be regulated off the roads!!!
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rockster57



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Mossberg wrote:
According to that it gives the following

Green LAND ROVER 90 DEFENDER 4C
United Kingdom

Is there anywhere that tells you what the different classes are? I can't see it on that site.


Maybe this:-

https://www.bradford.gov.uk/breathe-better...ed-to-pay/
Post #929419 11th Nov 2021 6:54pm
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