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umbertob



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Fastest selling new vehicles in US, August 2021
Defender is at # 15 overall, not sure that any JLR vehicle ever made this list before. It's #1 in NY market area. Shocked it's not #1 here in Los Angeles, since new Defenders are literally everywhere. They must have had a Subaru giveaway at the beach or something.



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mse



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Just think how great if they could keep up with the chip shortage Mike
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I'm surprised to see the 663 ahead of the Bronco. Probably Ford have a bigger shortage of chips than JLR Defender 90XS SW
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The Bronco has a few problems with design like the removable roof panels that have delayed deliveries but once the issues are cured I’m sure it will start screaming up the sales lists.
Why no Tesla on the list though? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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mse wrote:
Just think how great if they could keep up with the chip shortage


They'd go down the table...all it shows is dealers have far less stock on the lot than normal.
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mse



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The table isn’t important if they are selling more vehicles and meeting or exceeding targets. That’s good for everyone Mike
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Supacat



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But they aren't selling more vehicles, this quarter was lower than the previous 2 quarters; they've only sold more than other models because they've made less of the others.
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mse



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Yes because they can’t get the chips and whether it’s a greater reliance or less contractual clout, they can’t make the volume they need.

If they can’t make it they can’t sell it. Demand is very strong Mike
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Supacat wrote:
But they aren't selling more vehicles, this quarter was lower than the previous 2 quarters; they've only sold more than other models because they've made less of the others.


Q3 (with July and August in) is always a slow point for the car industry, wouldn’t read anything into that.

I’ve been waiting for my car for over a year now; I think that should be enough to tell you that the problem is supply not demand… Cheers, David
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AMBxx



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This isn't sales volume, it's days to sell after listing. Not sure the relevance of that.
In the September data, the Defender is nowhere to be seen.
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Supacat



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^^^^ Quite correct.

Cheshire110 wrote:
I’ve been waiting for my car for over a year now; I think that should be enough to tell you that the problem is supply not demand…

I think I know that...

mse wrote:
The table isn’t important if they are selling more vehicles and meeting or exceeding targets. That’s good for everyone


September's list...


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https://www.iseecars.com/fastest-selling-cars-study
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mse



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Like i say meaningless.

Demand is strong

Land Rover need to meet their targets

they dont measure them selves on unadjusted stats for the big boys - whats the sense in that. Mike
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Supacat



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Calling demand strong because you have a logjam on actually delivering orders, to the extent that some people have been waiting over a year for delivery, seems a particularly perverse spin on the facts.
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mse



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Not at all and your statement isn’t accurate.

there is strong demand for new defenders, nothing to do with people waiting of which there is also increasing back order, those two states exist.

That said, I think it’s a good thing to have 5-9 months wait for new cars, helps to keep 2nd hand values and reduce the disposable culture.

My first rrs I had to wait 6 months

But there is definitely demand over people waiting, which is there. A simple measure is those with orders in waiting, those still ordering and those waiting for shorter lead times Mike
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Not sure what you thought wasn't accurate, you were not specific...

Here's Ford's position on "fast selling" in the US:

"Carlisle said new vehicle inventories have shrunk to below 20 days in the United States due to the supply chain disruptions, but the company wants to get that back up to 30 to 45 days with some getting to 60 days depending on the product line."

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/ar...chips-exec

I'm not certain JLR would disagree... meaning spinning a lack of product into a positive is complete Censored .
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