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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 279   
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..looks fantastic..how i wish this was design path for defender...meh..
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1st Nov 2020 11:54am |
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| Minch90 Member Since: 15 Sep 2017 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 229 
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Had a Bronco II when I lived in the US and it was great then (lovely V6), this one looks fab 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
S3 V8 Lightweight - in the garage being ignored #newchassistime S3 lightweight - 2nd car 24V fire risk with a full tilt and the windscreen down S1 80" - first car fun - 75mph in neutral downhill once #wobblesallround |
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1st Nov 2020 6:30pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19654
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Not keen on the colour of that particular one but like the actual vehicle though.
The new Pretender doesn’t float my boat but each to their own, sure I don’t doubt it’s “capable” but I can’t stand how it looks and other factors such as engine types and where it’s made etc matters to many many people. Live and let live though. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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1st Nov 2020 8:01pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2526  
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Looks like a Kia........
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1st Nov 2020 9:12pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Should make a superb mall cruiser or beach runner on the Pacific coast beaches but pretty well useless over here because of its size Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Nov 2020 10:40pm |
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| SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 656 
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The 4 door bronco is 208mm less in length than the 110, 113mm lower in height, but is 80mm wider. So I suppose that also makes the 110 useless over here too.
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1st Nov 2020 10:51pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19654
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How does the Bronco width compare width wise with a Disco 4 or 5? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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1st Nov 2020 11:23pm |
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| SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 656
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D5 is about 100mm longer, and about 30mm taller and wider than the bronco 4dr, so practically the same footprint.
Wheelbase of the bronco is about 25mm longer than D5, but 110 is 73mm longer than the bronco 4dr. The bronco 2dr is about 170mm shorter than the 90 (only 30mm less in wheelbase) and slightly lower, but slightly wider, but really there’s not much in it. |
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2nd Nov 2020 10:13am |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1287 
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Love it or hate it, they will sell in volumes that JLR could only dream about.
Both Ford and Jeep understand their customer base and produce vehicles that customers are more than happy to buy. |
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2nd Nov 2020 11:07am |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 800 
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To be fair, and as already pointed out elsewhere, LR are not aiming the new Defender at the same market as the Bronco.
Which is a shame for those of us who wished it was. But there it is - the Bronco will sell for less but in greater numbers - the Defender is now a luxury product with a price to match. |
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2nd Nov 2020 11:44am |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1287
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I agree with you Ads90.
The real shame is that JLR already have a number of vehicles that are already very similar to new Defender both in terms of capability and price. I still think they have missed a massive opportunity for volume sales on a Wrangler/Bronco equivalent with an attractive price for a base spec utility model and a market competitive price for a higher trim level version. |
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2nd Nov 2020 11:57am |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 800
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LR could still produce an alternative model to have a nibble at the Bronco (leisure) market of course... but it's not going to have live axles so won't really be like-for-like.
But they could produce a Defender-lite / Defender-mini at a lower price point - it has been muted elsewhere. |
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2nd Nov 2020 12:15pm |
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| NormanD Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 282 
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From a designers viewpoint, an interesting video from Frank Stephenson
&ab_channel=FrankStephenson NormanD WE191 2015 110 XS Utility 2014 VW Caravelle 180 Executive |
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2nd Nov 2020 2:41pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19654
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SteveG - 👍🏻 Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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2nd Nov 2020 8:15pm |
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