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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Can't see a thread dedicated to this model? Think it deserves a thread all of it's own. As soon as the station wagon is launched, this is supposed to follow shortly, so maybe more details will come out presently. First article, I seen: https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/deta...oz-130871/ "Tray-back version of new hard-core British off-road wagon to take on LandCruiser 70 Series pick-up The hard-core dual-cab 4x4 ute version of the all-new INEOS Grenadier will directly target the trusty Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series in Australia. Speaking to carsales at the interior reveal of the BMW-powered British off-roader in the UK overnight, INEOS product chief Donna Falconer provided several new details about the upcoming Grenadier pick-up. Key among them is that the four-door Grenadier crew-cab will share the wagon’s chassis, including coil springs all round, but will ride on a longer wheelbase." “In terms of the chassis, the engineering, the set-up, the axles, the suspension, it’s the same for both vehicles, but we will have a longer wheelbase on the pick-up.” ["Two versions of the Grenadier will be available from the outset: the five-seat station wagon driven in prototype guise here and a two-seat commercial vehicle, both based on a standard 2921mm wheelbase. Shortly afterwards, Ineos will launch a double-cab pick-up truck and a seven-seat station wagon, both using a longer (3175mm) wheelbase." https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ineos/grenadier ] Payload Falconer confirmed the coil-spung rear-end of the British-engineered, French-built Grenadier ute, which could also be tested in Australia, would offer the same one-tonne payload as the wagon – if INEOS meets its development targets. “That’s absolutely what we’re targeting. We’re doing a lot of testing at the moment. There’s no getting away from the fact that given the structure and rigidity and durability that’s in the vehicle, clearly it’s a heavy vehicle, but were doing everything we can to hit that [one-tonne payload] target,” she said. “We haven’t concluded testing yet and there’s a bit more work to do before we’re ready to announce it, but we’re definitely aiming for it. Watch this space.” Towing capacity INEOS is also targeting a 3500kg tow capacity for the Grenadier pick-up, matching the best mid-size utes and the Grenadier wagon, which will eclipse most off-road SUVs and match the full-size Toyota LandCruiser for towing capability. “Definitely, yes,” said Falconer in response to questions around 3.5-tonne towing. “Obviously the vehicles will have a different kerb weight, because they’re slightly different in terms of the body, and you’ve got the bed on the back of the pick-up, but I think in terms of headline targets we’re absolutely looking for that to be common between the two vehicles – both payload and towing.” Other derivatives The vehicle’s product boss confirmed there will be no single-cab version of the Grenadier pick-up, but said the dual-cab will have a “competitive bed length” and ruled out a long-wheelbase wagon – for now. “Who knows, but right now it’s not in the plan,” said Falconer. “We’re looking at the lifecycle strategy, at what could come beyond the initial Grenadier wagon and the pick-up.” When asked whether INEOS would produce an even harder-core rival for the Ford Raptor desert-crusher, Falconer teased: “I’d love to tell you more, but right now my lips are sealed on that one. We’ll see. I’ll make some notes!” Pricing Like the Grenadier wagon, the ute will be aimed at traditional Land Rover Defender pick-up buyers including farmers and recreational customers in a unique sales strategy for Australia, but also the mining industry as a direct rival for the Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series. Falconer said INEOS intends to price the Grenadier ute below the wagon, which will start from about around £45,000 ($A82,000) in the UK. Toyota’s double-cab 70 Series range starts at $71,500. “We’ll try and get [the pick-up priced] under the station wagon, but it’ll be competitively priced given the attributes of the vehicle,” she said. “There’s a lot of expensive engineering that’s gone into this vehicle – everything from the engines to the axles, the transmission, the vehicle structure itself. We’re very conscious of price, but we’re also very conscious that what we’ve created is something that’s actually great value. “It’s going to last 30 years, it’s rugged, you can take it anywhere, do anything with it, and it’s easily repairable. So I think it’s going to be a little more expensive than you might find some of the entry-level pick-ups, but it’s going to last. “That’s really important – the engineering excellence, the durability. You’re going to live with this thing for many years, so there’s a value-for-money aspect from that perspective.” Availability No release date has been set for the INEOS Grenadier pick-up, but Falconer said it wouldn’t be too far behind the wagon, which will become available in Australia from July 2022. “Hopefully, pending all the final testing, it’ll be fairly hot off the heels off the back of the station wagon. But we can’t give away final dates yet. You won’t have to wait too long,” she said. Last edited by Supacat on 8th Jul 2021 5:31pm. 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7th Jul 2021 10:30pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1351 
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3rd thing, it's not an aluminium monocoque.
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7th Jul 2021 11:17pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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So the guy's off fishing in Iceland, with a company prototype, probably on one of his boss's private rivers...and posts this:
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8th Jul 2021 8:00pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997 
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Especially as they have actively courted the media with the SW prototypes. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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8th Jul 2021 8:07pm |
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| SN Member Since: 30 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
Gonna have the turning circle of an ocean liner with that wheelbase! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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8th Jul 2021 11:51pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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If you are not that confident /competent a driver, other options are open to you:
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9th Jul 2021 8:27am |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 674 
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Re Payload Comments Above:
It better have the 1320kg carrying capacity of my 130DCPU or its just not for me, 1Te capacity is L200 toy town capacity 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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9th Jul 2021 7:57pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997
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Some pics from FB. These have been developed somewhat under the radar compared to the Station Wagon.
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18th Aug 2021 9:45am |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 745 
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Another fine legacy of the Defender right |
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18th Aug 2021 12:00pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Have you a link to the page... I'm struggling to find it.  |
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18th Aug 2021 1:11pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997
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I can’t figure out how to link the post, but it’s in a group called The Ineos Grenadier Interest Group. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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18th Aug 2021 1:22pm |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/837254700150468 Rgds.
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18th Aug 2021 1:32pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3321
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If they can't get the payload up to at least 1 ton it will lose out on the double cab commercial benefit in kind and be treated as a car for company car tax purposes
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18th Aug 2021 1:44pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997
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If they can get the kerb weight under 2500kg, which should be possible, I’m sure it will have a 1t payload. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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18th Aug 2021 2:06pm |
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