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Busarider



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Rr classic police spec springs
Morning gents.. Seeking a softer ride. Ordered a set of rr classic police spec springs.... Question is will standard height shocks be OK or will I need longer shocks.. I'm under the impression rr classic springs give a slight lift... Any help much appreciated
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diesel_jim



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I thought they were, if anything, slightly shorter as they're pretty soft (compared to a standard 90)
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Whirly90



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England 1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Keswick Green
I thought police spec springs were standard height but slightly heavy duty to cope with the weight of all the police kit in RRโ€™s. With no weight in the vehicle they will give a slight lift (not compress as much).
Post #899262 21st Apr 2021 7:24am
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camelman



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If you have the spring rates and heights you should be able to do a like for like comparison? Assuming they are new. 
Post #899265 21st Apr 2021 7:30am
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geobloke



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Great spring resource - http://www.red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html - The RRC springs are a great Ol' Skool change to a 90, used to be all the rage before OME, Bearmach, and other after market springs arrived and folks did use standard length shocks with them.
Post #899317 21st Apr 2021 12:57pm
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DSN



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My 90 has run these when I used to do some challenge events. Gave a slight lift but I still ran it with standard dampers all round. Worked well on the front to compensate having the winch etc on the front. Was a cheap solution for me at the time. 1987 90 king cab, 200tdi
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Re: Rr classic police spec springs
Busarider wrote:
Morning gents.. Seeking a softer ride. Ordered a set of rr classic police spec springs.... Question is will standard height shocks be OK or will I need longer shocks.. I'm under the impression rr classic springs give a slight lift... Any help much appreciated


Can share the part numbers.
Have installed NRC4305 on front and NRC4304 on rear of a 90 Td5, They give about 1" lift (perhaps a bit more on front).
Standard shocks should still work fine. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #899368 21st Apr 2021 7:02pm
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Busarider



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geobloke wrote:
Great spring resource - http://www.red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html - The RRC springs are a great Ol' Skool change to a 90, used to be all the rage before OME, Bearmach, and other after market springs arrived and folks did use standard length shocks with them.
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Šcracking info.... With other vehicles to spoil I can't justify the expense of ome etc... So I thought after a bit of research I'd go along the rr classic spring route with some new standard shocks...
Post #899397 21st Apr 2021 8:53pm
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Busarider



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Re: Rr classic police spec springs
Dinnu wrote:
Busarider wrote:
Morning gents.. Seeking a softer ride. Ordered a set of rr classic police spec springs.... Question is will standard height shocks be OK or will I need longer shocks.. I'm under the impression rr classic springs give a slight lift... Any help much appreciated


Can share the part numbers.
Have installed NRC4305 on front and NRC4304 on rear of a 90 Td5, They give about 1" lift (perhaps a bit more on front).
Standard shocks should still work fine.
cheers dude... How do you find the ride?
Post #899400 21st Apr 2021 9:03pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
It is not my defender, but he claimed that the ride is a lot softer than the stock CSW springs (but he has +2 terrafirma shocks).
The owner is more keen on articulation, and he got a lot more articulation, because the spring under load compresses further. Wheel that lifts is limited by the shock. His added bonus is because the spring is longer, he did not need spring relocators anymore.

On my Defender, 2012 CSW, I replaced the rear springs with NRC2119. It has improved the ride quality, although not as much as I expected. I always run empty, and the CSW has progressive springs at the rear, so suspect the initial spring rate of the original CSW spring might have already been close to that of NRC2119. Note that the defender sits a bit lower with these springs. I added an isolator, but the rear is about 1/2" lower than stock.

I also have a set of 572315 springs. These are the softest springs, and ran them for a short while at the back of my old 90HT. But at that time I did not have spacers, and the 90 was sitting very low. They are currently loaned to my nephew 2.4 90HT, but we added isolators and +1" spacer. The 90 is still sitting slightly lower. Ride is very soft however. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #899439 22nd Apr 2021 6:32am
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Busarider



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Much appreciated info๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š.. I'll be running 2119 and 4304.....im not sure whether to add +2 shocks or standard height... I've not long read about a fella running the same springs has ill be running with standard shocks.. So I'll probably go along with that.. Tbh I've not got a clue what I'm doing๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.. Only thing I kniw is whatever I fit can't be any worse than the 20yr old set up I have atm
Post #899441 22nd Apr 2021 6:56am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Which spring will go on the rear (or front) ?

Is it a 90, 110? 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #899474 22nd Apr 2021 10:14am
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Busarider



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4304 rear 2119 front.
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
I em expecting to be a bit nose down with this setup.
Unless you have some weight at the back. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #899482 22nd Apr 2021 10:38am
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Busarider



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Really ๐Ÿ˜•.. What If I swapped them around?
Post #899503 22nd Apr 2021 11:42am
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