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| DonH2000 Member Since: 12 Jan 2015 Location: North Kent Posts: 551   
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 Click image to enlarge For the experts seeing this note re MOT and lights failing the test, does this mean just fitting bulbs is a fail or fitting complete new front lights a fail? Looking for clarification. Cheers Don. |
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25th Mar 2021 12:33pm |
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| MichaelE Member Since: 18 Jan 2020 Location: Crawley West Sussex Posts: 155 
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Fitting replacement LED/HID bulbs in to a standard light unit that originally took normal filament bulbs is a fail. Fitting complete new all-in-one LED units is ok [assuming they are correctly identified for UK fitment, which I'm not going in to here]
Started and posted this before Mr Blackwolf's reply, else I wouldn't have repeated the same |
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25th Mar 2021 12:47pm |
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| DonH2000 Member Since: 12 Jan 2015 Location: North Kent Posts: 551
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Thanks Blackwolf and MichaelE for making it quite clear.
Yes I saw the discussions elsewhere on the forum but my computer started to smoke and catch fire reading some of the comments!!!!! Cheers Don. |
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25th Mar 2021 12:50pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3321
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Doesn't apply to those with 'classics' however (pre 1986)
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25th Mar 2021 1:46pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2052 
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or 'sensible' MOT testers..........
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25th Mar 2021 2:30pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16876 
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It is hugely frustrating since (with good quality LED "bulbs") it is purely a technicality, and not because of any fundamental problem with safety, usability, or light output. It is simply because the "LED modules" are not type approved and the headlamp unit was type approved with a different type of light source. Perhaps someone could persuade Wipac to submit a set of Crystals for test with LED "bulbs" and then scoop up a huge market share of the ensuing sales boom.
Unlike the inference in some other threads, I don't believe that fitting such "bulbs", whilst it may be illegal and have other implications, is necessarily the first step towards a life of crime and becoming an outlaw.  |
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25th Mar 2021 5:02pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16876
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The only problem here is that if the sensible pragmatic tester continues to pass these lights, he may end up losing his livelihood since both his and his employer's testing licences may be revoked. Rather than put him on the spot, it would be kinder to pop a pair H4s back in just for the test. |
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25th Mar 2021 5:04pm |
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| Adammacky Member Since: 28 Dec 2019 Location: West Midlands Posts: 309
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Really depends on the MOT tester wether they will fail or not but even if they do pass it doesn't mean they are LEGAL by any means, having said that...
I have LED bulbs in h4 projector lights with accurate beam pattern. |
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25th Mar 2021 5:33pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2052
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MOT test aplies at that date & time, no more........
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25th Mar 2021 9:41pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2520 
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I am waiting for the clocks to go forwards before i put the H4 paraffin candles back in
I am thinking that an additional set of these might be useful, at least i stand a chance of being seen even if i cant see.
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25th Mar 2021 9:42pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3321
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I agree but unfortunately they're still technically illegal for the rest of the year under the current regs  |
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25th Mar 2021 10:08pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2052
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Haven't argued they aren't but was simply suggesting the tester wouldn't be to blame.....
Either way its a personal descision just the same as sitting at 85 on a Motorway....... |
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25th Mar 2021 10:11pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3616 
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You mean this isn’t a gateway modification that could lead to a life on the run..?!  |
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26th Mar 2021 6:59am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
if your car fitted with or has components remover and invaded in an accident or stop on the road side for inspersion  you will be hung out dry |
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26th Mar 2021 10:13am |
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