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rafman



Member Since: 23 Feb 2021
Location: Perth
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Stop / Start not working
I've got a D300, driven close to 800km already and so far the stop/start will not kick in. It works perfectly if I turn my a/c off but with the a/c on it will not work, I can have the fan on the lowest speed, temp set to the same as outside but it simply won't work. Turn off the a/c though and it works as it should.
Got a new RRS with the same engine and it works perfectly, turns the car off at every opportunity, no matter whether the a/c is on or off.
Any ideas? D300 HSE - Eiger Grey
L405, Disco 4, RRS all sold.
Post #890057 9th Mar 2021 6:29am
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Simon Audi



Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
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Try charging the battery for a day or 2

There is voltage level triggers in all the Start Stop Systems


Not saying that is the issue - but a good place to start.
Post #890058 9th Mar 2021 6:49am
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rafman



Member Since: 23 Feb 2021
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Thanks, I did try charging the battery, but it made no difference. As I mentioned as soon as I turn the a/c off it works fine. D300 HSE - Eiger Grey
L405, Disco 4, RRS all sold.
Post #890059 9th Mar 2021 6:56am
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Tonga Green
Get Land Rover assist out.
Post #890084 9th Mar 2021 9:25am
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
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from bitter experience on other models and I can only imagine the Defender is the same in this space. the Stop Start system is way to clever for its own good. From my own problems I know it relies on parameters across the whole battery management system being just right for it to work. It monitors current draw vs battery state and more so the minute something is slightly out of whack it stops working. My dealer spent weeks trying to find a problem on one of my discos. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #890096 9th Mar 2021 10:03am
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jeffersj



Member Since: 23 Jan 2015
Location: Near Preston
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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green
Evoque batteries were dying on some models after a few months because of the stop start especially on cars only doing short town runs. Save the battery and turn it off! Jeff
Ex 1968 Series 2A
Ex 90 TD5
Ex D3
Ex D4
Post #890097 9th Mar 2021 10:06am
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Retroanaconda



Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
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Consider yourself lucky - most people are trying to find a way to disable the damned thing, yours has done it itself!
Post #890103 9th Mar 2021 10:21am
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Tonga Green
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Post #890146 9th Mar 2021 12:22pm
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J77



Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
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It never works during the winter on my velar, due to heating being on, heated seats etc. In the summer it works more unless a really hot day where the aircon is working hard.

To be honest it’s not worth the hassle. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
Post #890159 9th Mar 2021 1:07pm
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Q86ARR



Member Since: 28 Feb 2017
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rafman wrote:
Thanks, I did try charging the battery, but it made no difference. As I mentioned as soon as I turn the a/c off it works fine.


Seems like it is working as it should then. AC is a stop start inhibit. If you are requesting cold and it can’t maintain it for 4 minutes without the engine running then it won’t go in to an eco stop
Post #890251 9th Mar 2021 6:34pm
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rafman



Member Since: 23 Feb 2021
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I don't believe that is how it should work. In my wife's RRS which is almost brand new, same d300 engine, it works perfectly with the A/C on and pretty much every car I've driven in the past few years has also had no problem with it working while the a/c is on. I do understand if for example it was very hot outside and a/c was on max, but even setting a/c to outside temp of 22 degrees (Celsius) and fan speed of 1, it still won't work.
Happy to be corrected if I am however wrong. D300 HSE - Eiger Grey
L405, Disco 4, RRS all sold.
Post #890349 10th Mar 2021 7:47am
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J77



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From the manual -

TRIGGERING AN AUTO STOP

To trigger an auto stop, drive forward with Drive (D) or Sport (S) selected, and stop the vehicle. Fully press the brake pedal to make sure the vehicle is stationary.

The following conditions inhibit an auto stop:

The external temperature is less than approximately -4°C.

The external temperature is more than approximately 40°C.

The engine or other vehicle systems have not reached their optimum operating temperatures.

The driver's seat belt is unbuckled.

Demand from the climate control system requires the engine to be running, e.g., when in defrost mode.

The vehicle's battery charge is low.

The auto stop/start system is deactivated.

After reversing, the vehicle's speed has not exceeded 16 km/h (10 mph).

The instrument panel displays an information lamp when the vehicle is stationary and the auto stop/start system is active, but operation is inhibited. See AUTO STOP/START INHIBIT (WHITE). 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
Post #890398 10th Mar 2021 11:22am
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rafman



Member Since: 23 Feb 2021
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Appreciate all of that, however none of it applies, what does happen is that when you press the brake pedal then the stop/start symbol in the dash comes up in white. As I mentioned as soon as I turn off the a/c it works perfectly. D300 HSE - Eiger Grey
L405, Disco 4, RRS all sold.
Post #890632 11th Mar 2021 7:54am
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intensityderen



Member Since: 03 Jul 2021
Location: Orlando, Florida
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United States 2016 Defender 110 2.5 Petrol HT Auto Cobar Blue
Same Problem. Picked up my 4 cylinder Defender 110 two months ago. Engine won't stop unless the A/C is off or at 75 degrees F or higher. Salesman has the same one WITH additional rear A/C and his works fine. Service Manager says that's the way it is. Landrover USA says they agree with the dealer. Salesman says maybe a future software update will fix it. I understand that many people don't like it, but I consider it a defect if it doesn't work as specified. Anybody else get a better resolution? Bow down
Post #910654 3rd Jul 2021 8:21pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Mine has worked faultlessly since delivery last year until the latest update over the air was installed and now it only works occasionally even when all the requirements are met apart from I haven’t been able to check the battery charge. Previous cars with Auto stop start have had a second battery for AS/S but I don’t think L663 has the extra battery. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #910666 3rd Jul 2021 10:04pm
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