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Toplink



Member Since: 05 Dec 2010
Location: Somerset
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Rear cross member replacement
Had to patch rear cross member for MOT. Looking in to a replacement one. Any out there that are worth the work to weld on, are galvanised ones any good. Want one made of proper steel and not recycled coke can.
The other option is make my own from 6mm plate or channel.
I would welcome your thoughts please gentlemen. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140
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Toplink



Member Since: 05 Dec 2010
Location: Somerset
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I can not believe no comments on this.
I am not the only owner of a puma chassis that is suffering from corrosion.
Be very interested on any thoughts.
Unusual for this forum to be slow in coming forward. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140
Post #893764 25th Mar 2021 8:23am
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Dinnu



Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
I replaced once a cross member for a friend. He wanted the chassis to look as unmolested as possible so he purchased just the crossmember without any extensions. To improve the life of the replacement crossmember he also ordered it galvanized, partnumber KVB000290G. Quality wise was very good. Fit was very good, and galvanizing was very good as well.

To get proper access to weld, we decided to remove the tub. Prior to welding, we removed as little as possible from the galvanizing zinc layer.

To have better access to welding, removed the top reinforcing plates, part of RTC3354. The lower reinforcing plates come with the basic crossmember. I opted to fabricate the top reinforcement plates myself, from 2mm zinc plated sheet steel, folded, punched etch to make them exact replica of the original.

You would also need to make 2 small squarish plates that weld on the bottom side.

If you are handy with the welder, then it is not a difficult job. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #893783 25th Mar 2021 9:40am
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jst



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i fitted one to my 130 last year, tub off when i did it but have done them in situ, just access on top is really bad.

i bought an ebay one, HD galvanised. quality of material was good, glav is good, overall dims good too. what was bad was that the threads for the tow hitch didnt line up with the holes in the outer edge! lots of filing later! threads also needed cleaning out.

i bought one with extensions to make welding on easier. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #893785 25th Mar 2021 9:44am
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFE...Sw0BVeouSh Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #893789 25th Mar 2021 9:48am
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corgi1



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England 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
a few years ago i spoke to a bloke who was advirtising on ebay saying he made them by hand and fitted them for you as well, now ive forgotten his name but he was in canvey island, yea a long way for me 2 and half houe drive, i could not believe the quality fantastic i got there at 7,30 in the morning and left at 6oc fitted it was the whole piece with the arms quater chassis some call it, so look on ebay and see if theres anyone on there from canvey island, sorry cant be any more help than that
Pete
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Pacha



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
^^^^^^

Pressbrake? Rgds.

Chris


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Post #893797 25th Mar 2021 10:00am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
As James remarked, I also had to re tap M16 the tow hitch threads. I did not bother with the other threds.
Need also to install the M6 rivnuts (need to be hexagonal shape) for the mudflaps and 2x M8 for the rear step if you have one.

This is the one he got:
https://www.paddockspares.com/kvb000290-td...nised.html

Only difference to the original:
1. The outriggers, right behind the rear wheels, the internal plates on the original are spot welded, these are mig welded, so you can see 3 welds.
2. The folds when fabricating the crossmember have a somewhat larger radius. But hard to detect.. need a sharp eye.

Edit: Now I recall that the slots to fit the body mounting rail did not line up with the captive nuts on the rail. The crossmember came with an early TD5 rail, and I was using the original rail as on the later TD5 and TDCI. Just a little bit of filing needed on the outer 2 slotted holes. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #893801 25th Mar 2021 10:03am
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corgi1



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Pacha yes pressbreak, cannot fault him fantastic job really well made as well, put the mass made ones to shame
Pete
How did you know?
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DonH2000



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Toplink wrote:
I can not believe no comments on this.
I am not the only owner of a puma chassis that is suffering from corrosion.
Be very interested on any thoughts.
Unusual for this forum to be slow in coming forward.


Yours is not the only one! Mine has a small bit of rust on the bottom of the rear cross-member but I am hoping once it warms up I will be able to weld it up myself. Cheers Don.
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jst



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I am hoping you mean warm up as no workshop? Rather than to aid the welding? Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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DonH2000



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Jst "I am hoping you mean warm up as no workshop? Rather than to aid the welding?"

Yes I need the weather to warm up; I have very low blood pressure and the colder weather makes it hard for me to work outside! I would love to have a workshop/garage but MrsH wanted an extension so the garage went west! Cheers Don.
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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Heard good things about 4x4fabrication crossmembers > 110 XS Double Cab
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miker



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corgi1 wrote:
Pacha yes pressbreak, cannot fault him fantastic job really well made as well, put the mass made ones to shame
Pete
How did you know?


The crossmembers made by Pressbreak (black sheep off road) are pretty legendary.... sadly I believe he's stepped away from the land rover seen entirely from what I last saw. I purchased one from him a few years back when he was just doing postal orders, and like you say it's fantastic quality, had it fitted by a welder friend!
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corgi1



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real shame he charged me £300 inc fitting and put the rest to shame
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