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nicolas0505



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Coil-engine immobilizer

I'm looking for information on this parts the reference is AMR 4897. Can it break down? and what are the symptoms?

I can't find a store that sells it or can I buy this part?
Post #882780 2nd Feb 2021 10:05pm
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dorsetsmith



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Can it break down?

this a coil ( only if its open cct )
Post #882793 2nd Feb 2021 11:21pm
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blackwolf



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It's probably the most reliable component in a fairly unreliable immobiliser system.
Post #882803 3rd Feb 2021 12:24am
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nicolas0505



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I was asking because I have intermittent starting problem. when i switch off the ignition and want to start, the engine cranks a little and then stops. if I restart immediately afterwards, it does not even start the engine, but if I switch off the ignition wait a bit ts reviving the engine a bit. I did this several times and after a while I quit. the next day the vehicle restarts normally.it works for a few days and the problem comes back.
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Johan H



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If I understand correctly from your description, I had a similar problem.

When I turned the key the car started, but stopped after a few seconds. I must have tried starting the car for 30 mins, and always the same result. In the end my wife gave it a try, and she noticed that if she let go of the key very slowly and gently the engine kept running.

The problem was in the ignition barrel, the contacts needed a cleaning, still use the same part two years later, ie. if you're lucky the problem might not have anything to do with the immobilizer
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blackwolf



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nicolas0505 wrote:
I was asking because I have intermittent starting problem. when i switch off the ignition and want to start, the engine cranks a little and then stops. if I restart immediately afterwards, it does not even start the engine, but if I switch off the ignition wait a bit ts reviving the engine a bit. I did this several times and after a while I quit. the next day the vehicle restarts normally.it works for a few days and the problem comes back.


This would not be typical of a faulty coil.
Post #882839 3rd Feb 2021 9:38am
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dorsetsmith



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The transponder coil creates a magnetic field that that excites a coil with in Rf handset this causes the Rf handset to transit a remobilisation code to the 10AS

Coil is only energised when ignition switch is turned to the ignition position and the engine is immobilised


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Post #882874 3rd Feb 2021 11:00am
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Martin
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2.4 or 2.2 with this problem?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
Post #882880 3rd Feb 2021 11:24am
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nicolas0505



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the engine is 2.4 and it dates from 2007. I cleaned the 2 contacts the red and green of the ignition switch with contact cleaner the 3rd I could not access
Post #882893 3rd Feb 2021 12:17pm
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Martin
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OK, it could be a faulty link due to the instrument pack soldering failing. The alarm unit is allowing the starter to crank, but the ECU is not receiving the immobiliser signal.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post814212.html#814212  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
Post #882927 3rd Feb 2021 2:35pm
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nicolas0505



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I had seen the trick of making a bridge between 3 and 4, I have not yet tried.

is this normal if I switch off the ignition, leave the key on it and go out and close the door. and like I go back 10 minutes to see 1 hour later.

I put the ignition on and the engine cuts I must unlocked with the plip to restart?
Post #882945 3rd Feb 2021 4:44pm
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