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to get it, We had to tap it in. Did the bleeding etc, and we got a smell of tyre burning, is there thinner pads for these? All got new calipers, and discs. We bought a replacement kit.
| Pugit666 Member Since: 04 Mar 2020 Location: York Posts: 43   
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Measure a pad and compare to this:
https://www.jgs4x4.co.uk/land-rover-defend...d-mdk0142/ That will give you your part number. Mine went on nicely. |
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15th Dec 2020 9:30pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2052 
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Pads need to be a neat fit and if you had to resort to hammering them in then likley they are stuck in the caliper and now binding hence the smell.......
Occasionally you might need to dress the pad slightly to allow a nice fit |
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15th Dec 2020 9:56pm |
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| Pugit666 Member Since: 04 Mar 2020 Location: York Posts: 43
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Was it the thickness of the pad wear material causing the issue, or the shape of the back part of it being tight in the calliper? On our civic, I’ve had to file away slightly on the back plate of the pad to get them to fit without jamming in the calliper.
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15th Dec 2020 10:14pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 765 
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I've said things like this on a cycling forum in the past and been flamed for it, but here goes anyway.... PLEASE take the car to someone who knows what they are doing. Brakes are kind of safety critical and the fact you are asking if hammering in the new pads is wrong demonstrates that you shouldn't be working on them. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/dec/18/ukcrime A reminder for us all about the importance of our vehicle tinkering! |
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15th Dec 2020 11:31pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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funny thing is its just one of the pads, all 3 went in no bother. My dad thinks the bearings are not seated properly, So he is going to have a tighten down. I am suspecting is there too much paint on the caliper, causing the issue. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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15th Dec 2020 11:34pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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I've said things like this on a cycling forum in the past and been flamed for it, but here goes anyway.... PLEASE take the car to someone who knows what they are doing. Brakes are kind of safety critical and the fact you are asking if hammering in the new pads is wrong demonstrates that you shouldn't be working on them. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/dec/18/ukcrime A reminder for us all about the importance of our vehicle tinkering![/quote]  Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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15th Dec 2020 11:38pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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funny thing was, the pad number 2, on the other side of the disc, went in a treat. The other side went together with out a bother. So either the front part of the caliper has too much paint on, causing the problem. Or that the wheel bearings on that side needs a bit more tightening down, if that works spot on, if not we will have to strip it all down and have dress the pad, or the caliper. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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15th Dec 2020 11:45pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 765
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@procta. Lovely emoji, glad you are taking it seriously.
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15th Dec 2020 11:46pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16875 
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I'm afraid I find this observation disturbing.  |
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15th Dec 2020 11:56pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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i am asking if people have had issues with stuff in the past. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! Last edited by Procta on 16th Dec 2020 12:12am. Edited 1 time in total |
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15th Dec 2020 11:58pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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Tbh blackwolf, i am not sure if my dad has damaged something, because he was fannying about for about an hour maybe 2, for the sake of bolting on a caliper, even tried to fit the wrong one side, it was marked on the boxes what side goes where! He goes at things with out checking before hand, He was fannying about, as he couldnt get the rear bolts back in the caliper. When i came out and had a look, took me two mins to move the rear guard and pop the bolts in. So god knows what possbile damage he may have done before i came out, and not said anything. If you are not there keeping an eye on him, things do end up been a nightmare! The other side was spot on, and that was cause i was there the full time, same goes for my 300 TDI when we did the full setup, no bother at all. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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16th Dec 2020 12:11am |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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fixed!! turned out to be the rear disc guard, and the rear seal. Rear disc guard was bolted in between the axle and caliper, which caused the thing to bind up. My dad hadnt tapped the rear seal down on the disc setup enough.
Took us about an hour ish all in, as we checked double checked everything. 
Great when you have another defender to use as a ref too  Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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16th Dec 2020 4:25pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16875
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I am completely in favour of people learning to work on their own cars, learning how they work, and learning the rudiments of "mechanicing", but when working on brakes I think you should supervise him more closely in future - they are fairly important in the safety department after all! Please be clear I mean no disrespect with this. It is good that his mistake meant that the brakes could mot be assembled, hence you had to give him help. How much worse would it have been if he'd got them together in a non-functional way without realising there was a problem. I do also know that it can be very difficult giving your dad advice (and I don't mean your dad, particularly, I mean any dad. Dad knows best, after all)! Anyway, I am glad you are sorted without expense and without casualties. |
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16th Dec 2020 4:46pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4937
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blackwolf, yeah i will have to keep an eye on him a lot more, Just to make sure things are going back together as they were. I always take pictures before, during and after. Even research before i tackle stuff etc.
We did rebuild a rover metro, which was very successful, and i learned a lot from it and from him. But that car was like a mini to work on. Not sure what has changed with him, but ever since he got the defender, he just seems to just dive in, with out thinking. We learn from our mistakes, even though this was a very minor one, on our part. Still keeps us all on our toes. I have had to advise him on a few things, before and yeah he has not liked it in the past. The clutch job, that had to be done twice, the 1st time he caused more work for us all, by having the car nearly 2 feet up in the air, the jacks were still maxed out etc. So the second time, he was told by me, to keep the thing on its four wheels, made life a lot easier when we put the box back in. So he has had an expensive lesson, by diving in and not thinking at all. He burnt the clutch out that he had fitted, again by not researching things before hand, like pedal adjustment, as he replaced the master cylinder. ( that was all it needed in the 1st place) I think he tries to be like Edd China at times  Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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16th Dec 2020 10:14pm |
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