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L110CDL



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So just to update this a bit more . . . .

As i thought the lights were working okay, my mind was changed again as i was going home from work one day last week, it was dark and i was using the main beam and as i put dipped beam on, no lights, Censored i said, then i switched the the light switch off then on, got headlights again, big phew, so all the way home i never used the main beam again but as i was about 5 minutes away from home, the headlights went out Censored again i turned the headlight switch off then on and again the headlights came on and i made it back home. I have changed the unit for a new one now and will see how this goes.

Your prediction was right Bluericky Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


Clayton.
Post #871861 7th Dec 2020 10:03pm
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jfh



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I used old male and female plugs and made a loom, with a relay built in, to make it plug and play.
Now at about 5 or 6 years and no problems.

In the last 20 years I've lost 3 switches, so I got fed up and made it.
It's just one relay to remove the ampere load from the switch.
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L110CDL



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Thanks jfh for the info, i will be trying to make up a relay loom and will be doing this hopefully sometime next year Thumbs Up

so on the way home last night and guess what, yes the lights went out Rolling Eyes so the next thing to change is the yellow relay under the fuses, i think it's something to do with the dim dip lights, the one in Millie is still the original one, so fingers crossed Confused 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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Post #872208 9th Dec 2020 9:36pm
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If I were you Clayton, I'd just remove the dim dip completely. I've done that on mine a while ago.

If my memory's correct I think the most 'difficult' thing was making up a short jumper cable to cross two points on another of the relays.

At least it makes the wiring simpler and easier to fault trace. As I understand it it's also better for the headlight bulbs, that they're not burning at low voltage.

Certainly if you're going to consider replacing parts of that system anyway, then I'd thinking about ditching it. Donald

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All you need to do is unplug the dim dip resistor.

If you make up a loom (in the Boomslang style) you will have to disable the dim dip because otherwise you'll be trying to energise your relays on a reduced voltage.
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Many thanks Donald, food for thought there Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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Post #872498 11th Dec 2020 9:03pm
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L110CDL



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blackwolf wrote:
All you need to do is unplug the dim dip resistor.

If you make up a loom (in the Boomslang style) you will have to disable the dim dip because otherwise you'll be trying to energise your relays on a reduced voltage.


Is the dim dip resistor the yellow thing under the fuses Blackwolf ? if not, where is it please Smile 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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L110CDL



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Many thanks dorsetsmith Very Happy

Will have a look for it tomorrow Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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L110CDL



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So to bring this thread hopefully to a close and the final update Very Happy

As Millie went into my indie for some needed work on her, i asked my indy to have a look at my lights to see if he can find the fault, so i went back to pick Millie up, on the 3rd day and he had found the problem with the lights, there was not one fault but three Rolling Eyes
The first fault was the new light switch i had put in, it was not working at 100%. the second problem was the pink relay for the dim dip lights was not working, so he did away with the relay and added some wires




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The third fault was the yellow relay under the fuses, he changed that one for one he new worked 100%

So my headlights work all ok and now i don't have dim dip anymore and my headlights, dipped beam and main beam are much brighter than before, well happy with the out come Very Happy 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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Sounds like a result, Clayton. Hopefully, that will be the last of your headlight woes. Darren

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L110CDL wrote:
So to bring this thread hopefully to a close and the final update Very Happy

As Millie went into my indie for some needed work on her, i asked my indy to have a look at my lights to see if he can find the fault, so i went back to pick Millie up, on the 3rd day and he had found the problem with the lights, there was not one fault but three Rolling Eyes
The first fault was the new light switch i had put in, it was not working at 100%. the second problem was the pink relay for the dim dip lights was not working, so he did away with the relay and added some wires




Click image to enlarge


The third fault was the yellow relay under the fuses, he changed that one for one he new worked 100%

So my headlights work all ok and now i don't have dim dip anymore and my headlights, dipped beam and main beam are much brighter than before, well happy with the out come Very Happy


I will put money on the switch killing the two relays, I think you can get these relays off most MG Rover cars. I have a few spare relays off the rover metro, ( i took the fuse box system out of the car) So it might be worth you having a look at a few rovers ( if they are still in scrap yards now) just for handful of relays. Thumbs Up I cannot remember if it was the wiper one or the light one i tested from the metro, and it worked. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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L110CDL



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^ ^ ^

Iv'e done away with one relay and have a plan sometime next year to help the head light switch out Wink 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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L110CDL



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Sounds like a result, Clayton. Hopefully, that will be the last of your headlight woes.


Hopefully it will be Darren Very Happy 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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help the head light switch out

add a relay to remove load from head light switch Idea




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