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Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 640

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey

Ouch – Clutch and More

With just over 95k on the clock my clutch failed without notice. I have recently done quite a few long distance journeys with no issues whatsoever. Driving back from hillwalking on Sunday I was unable to change gear. Pedal felt fine but not disengaging clutch.

Got it recovered to my Indy garage. Turns out it was the spigot bearing which in turn has badly scored the main gearbox output shaft.

So next week it is getting recon gearbox, complete new clutch and transferbox output shaft.

That is me broke for a few months! Plus side had a great day on the hills and saw three of the local MR defenders. (One is just out of shot)

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23rd Oct 2020 9:50am

Doc P

Member Since: 03 Apr 2016
Location: Midlands
Posts: 565

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

Dang. I feel your pain.

23rd Oct 2020 12:14pm

Tegner

Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
Location: Alnwick Northumberland
Posts: 174

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Zermatt Silver

hi just had my gearbox replaced @96k miles no change out of £3k

23rd Oct 2020 12:54pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 640

Yep that is what I am expecting!

23rd Oct 2020 1:36pm

Tegner

Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
Location: Alnwick Northumberland
Posts: 174

gearbox alone £2196

23rd Oct 2020 3:21pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 640

That must be straight from land rover? Think mine is £1100 plus vat.

23rd Oct 2020 7:06pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3209

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Cannot replace the input shaft? Or cheaper still, skim and sleeve it? 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

23rd Oct 2020 7:41pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 640

Apparently replacing requires gearbox dismantling and likely to find other stuff at same time at this mileage so may as well swap for fully refurbished unit.

Sleeving option wasn't mentioned. Would shaft not need to come out to machine?

23rd Oct 2020 7:59pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3209

Indeed, to replace the input gear, the gearbox has to come apart. Likewise if you want to machine it down to sleeve it. The plus side if you have a box with known history.

Other option, but I do not know if it is possible - remove the high spots from the input shaft, and sleeve it oversize. But then you have to do without the bearing and have a custom made spigot bush. I know the spigot bush worked well on the old diesels. No idea why Ford went for bearing vs bush.

Perhaps this is not economically viable if you have to pay a garage to do all the work. All my suggestions are based on what I would try to do, but I do not count the hours while my hands are black and greasy

1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

24th Oct 2020 6:50am

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