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| ChrisCSL Member Since: 10 Aug 2019 Location: Berks Posts: 185   
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Hi David,
Not heard of this one. Out of interest are these the original 2013 tyres? Also what tyre brand are they and miles they've done. I certainly know age can effect tyres but your truck isn't old. The form makes it sound like a defect??? Hopefully someone will come along smarter than me. Shouldn't take long 
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9th Sep 2020 6:01pm |
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| htb2 Member Since: 02 Nov 2018 Location: aberdeenshire Posts: 510 
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I know trailers are not MOT tested, but very common on Ifor williams and trailers of the like. Internal damage to the cords and the tyre distorts.
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9th Sep 2020 6:15pm |
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| skiefang Member Since: 07 Jan 2019 Location: dudley Posts: 28 
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Hi Chris
I think that they are as I have different front BF goordrichs on front vs another and spare rear. Ive ordered new ones to match fronts any way, just wanted to know if i was being screwed by halfords again. David |
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9th Sep 2020 7:33pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3351 
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Possibly Nothing at Halfords would surprise me......
Not on a Defender, but I had a Vauxhall Astra where the tread parted company with the carcass of the tyre. The tyre was intact, but it wasn't something you wouldn't notice whilst driving. It was put down to a manufacturing fault by ATS. The tyre wasn't old, but no one was interested other than ATS who sold another pair of tyres  |
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9th Sep 2020 8:26pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16892 
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I've not heard the term "tread lift" before but the phenomenon of alternate block wear is common on mud tyres, especially when used for long road mileages and at higher speeds. I have however NEVER hear of a vehicle failing the MOT for this, since the MOT test only requires 1.6 mm tread over <whatever> percentage of the tread width and visible tread on the rest (or whatever the details specification is now, I forget) I do not see how this wear pattern could legitimately result in a fail. It also has no bearing whatsoever on the two faults you say are listed on the paperwork.
I can think of no circumstances ever which would coerce me into letting Halfords do anything to my vehicle, let alone work on it or MOT it, I would always prefer to go somewhere that employs grown-ups. I would say that you have ample grounds to appeal this. The last thing I attempted at Halfords was to get an replacement front number plate made for my Disco2, after it failed an MOT (elsewhere, not at Halfwits) for delamination and dirt ingress. The first pone they made didn't have a space between the first four characters and the last three, therefore was illegal and would have been another MOT failure. The second one they made had the right spacing but was the wrong colour, they'd used a rear number plate blank not a front. The third attempt was correct. In the end it was OK because I got a free rear plate I can use on a trailer, but it took ages and, well, how hard can it be to make a number plate? |
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9th Sep 2020 8:38pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6038 
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^^^ How hard?
Because pushbikes don't need plates or an air freshener.... so they're totaly confused at this thought.... |
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9th Sep 2020 9:48pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4784 
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9th Sep 2020 10:02pm |
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| andydef90 Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: yorkshire Posts: 617 
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i had this many years ago when my mk1 fiesta did the same thing its tyre separation is part of the process when manufactured that has failed but i am talking 30 years ago crikey getting old
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10th Sep 2020 2:06pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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I haven't seen tread lift for ages.
It occurs during manufacture when they lay down the compound that is to be the tread on to the tyre carcass and it does not fuse together when vulcanised due to contaminates on either part. I used to see it a lot when remoulds were more fashionable and on the odd occasion on new tyres. It is noticeable if you look at the tyre from the side, it looks like a hump. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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10th Sep 2020 3:12pm |
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| ChrisCSL Member Since: 10 Aug 2019 Location: Berks Posts: 185
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BF Goodrich are decent tyres for Defenders. If you had no brand rears then it sounds wise to have matching fronts. Back in the day I'd change all 4 tyres at the same time in my RS4 being four wheel drive. I'm personally anti mixing brands and tryi to keep more even tyre wear. Thats on performance cars though so I wouldn't worry so much on a defender's tyre wear as much. Chris |
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10th Sep 2020 5:04pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16892
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So was it uneven wear patterns, or was it the tread separating from the tyre?
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10th Sep 2020 5:32pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 421  
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If you do loads of milage, off road tyres may tend to crack :
https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/...g.153015/# in this special case, a MOT could cause problems. But imho one should change these cracked tires anyway... P.S.: sry for the Land Cruiser link - I love crossing borders  |
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10th Sep 2020 10:06pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5424 
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It’s what all mud tyres do. As informed above. Every second block wears lower. They’ve always done it. And shouldn’t fail an MOT due to it
Typical halfrauds. I’d be interested to know how they brake tested it. |
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10th Sep 2020 10:29pm |
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| Gloucesternige Member Since: 17 Jan 2020 Location: In the garage Posts: 114 
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As a side note.. I have just got me a new Ranger Raptor. I went into Halfords for some Ad Blue.. I said to the guy on the till, "that's the first bottle of this stuff I've ever bought".. he replied, "We can fit it for you for £5 while you wait sir"!! "FIT" a bottle of liquid?? OMG.. what is this world coming to?? I must FIT some Diesel on the way out tonight!! Sorry, back to the OP subject.. I would take the Landie somewhere else. I have BFG Muds and they are 9 yrs old and have never failed an MOT. Nige Check out my You Tube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/Defender90KeswickNigelsLandRoverchannel |
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