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justinhp



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Starter fuse blowing - any help appreciated
I wonder whether any of you can help.

I have a 2007 tdci and the fuse between the relay and the solenoid (it's a 30A fuse under the driver's seat next to a large 60A fuse but not in the main secondary fuse box) keeps blowing. This fuse does not appear to be listed by LR.

This was an intermittent fault at first but it now happens every time I try to start. Except.... if I go through the routine of resetting the ECU (loosen negative terminal on battery, ignition to position 3, remove negative terminal, remove key from ignition, leave for half an hour) the engine will start although the fuse still blows but it at least allows me to move.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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the gamekeeper



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Had a problem like that it turned out to be a cable rubbing on the lifting eye on the back of the engine, rubbed through the casing and was shorting out on the engine. Repaired the cable and fitted sleeving to protect the cables in that area.

Tony
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justinhp



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Blimey, Tony - I've been dicking around for ages and you've only gone and solved it in a second! Thank you so much. There was indeed a worn cable that had rubbed on the lifting eye and was through to the copper. Would explain why the problem was intermittent.
Thank you!
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the gamekeeper



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That's the beauty of this forum we have all been there at some point

Tony
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Supacat



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Wasn't that a service action to get the eye removed?
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chrisc2306



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Would any of you happen to have a picture of the offending cable? I seem to have the same problem but can’t even locate my lifting eye
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Supacat



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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7180....p;start=15

spudfan wrote:
View from side over heater

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Anyone else got this messy stuff in front of the bracket?
View from front of engine

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Sorry about the spots but it was raining when I went out!

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chrisc2306



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Ah that’ll be why I can’t find it, it’s not there anymore. Everything looks okay round there. Seems to be blowing the 60a glow plug fuse on startup. Anyone got any other ideas?
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blackwolf



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It is well worth periodically checking the full length of the engine harness for chafing on a regular basis since Landrover unfortunately seemed to forget 50 years of acquired wisdom in securing cables when the built the TDCi Defender. I haven't yet met a vehicle which hasn't suffered some degree of wiring damage, though mostly it is minor and has no effect.

Not long after I bought mine the turbo packed up, and when I started investigating I found that the actuator went straight to the "no boost" extreme on ignition on and stayed there. This in turn led to the discovery that one of the sensor wires from the actuator to the ECM has worn through, but more significantly all the turbo actuator wires were damage as well as the main feed from the alternator to the battery, which is an un-fused permanently-live wire. It was possible to see bare copper on this when the harness was manipulated, and I reckon that I was days, possibly hours, away from a catastrophic underbonnet fire when I found the damage.

I freed off the entire harness from its securing points, and at every single one the harness was damaged to some extent. Needless to say I repaired it, reinforced it, and secured it thoroughly with ample anti-chafe protection (using split heater hose as an outer protection), but I still check it regularly.
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Phil VM2.5



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the gamekeeper wrote:
That's the beauty of this forum we have all been there at some point

Tony


I agree with you !
Philippe current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and
again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today.

One ten 1988 to 1992
1987 BMW GS80
One Ten from 1984 to 1987
One Ten from 1983 to 1984
Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983
from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6
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dorsetsmith



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Landrover unfortunately seemed to forget 50 years of acquired wisdom in securing cables when the built the TDCi Defender. I haven't yet met a vehicle which hasn't suffered some degree of wiring damage, though mostly it is minor and has no effect.

FORD Whistle had heavy input to LR at this time both build i.e. engine gear box wiring looms and not forget saving money at cost to end user and ford ethos is still in place to day i.e make end user pay and pay again for thing that shroud be curved by good customer services and good build and of cores design at is not just centred around factory build cost saving and time saving
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