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Dave777



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No spare wheel
Hi, I am new here but owned an RRS for 5 years which we are looking to change for a Defender 90 (if you can ever get one!)

One concern we have is re the side opening tailgate and the spare wheel. A regular journey for us means we reverse into a spot but there are bollards behind. We are worried about opening the tailgate with a bollard there? Also the spare wheel makes the car even longer and will be rarely used by my wife!!! How does the car look with it off?

I will have many more questions so sorry in advance and thanks you.
Post #850163 15th Aug 2020 4:52pm
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J77



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Presumably the bracket can be removed also



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Post #850181 15th Aug 2020 6:16pm
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Dave777



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Lol!

Doesn't help much taking it off then!! The size of the car makes those discs look small too.
Post #850190 15th Aug 2020 7:04pm
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J77



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That should’ve read

Presumably the bracket can be removed also.

Embarassed
Post #850191 15th Aug 2020 7:07pm
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Tim in Scotland



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If you are going for a 90 it shouldn’t be an issue but 110’s are longer than many standard parking places anyway.
Unlike the lifting tailgate cars from LR the Defender’s parking cams don’t give you a graduated distance back from the bumper that you can safely park to open the tailgate.
With the tail gate open fully the spare doesn’t stick out more than you would need to open the driver’s door to get in and out too.
If you want I can try parking up in the car park in the next village and get you some photos of the 110 situation with the tailgate open and how much the driver’s door has to clear things to get in and out. I’m lucky that the park and ride I use has extra long slots for long cars and mobile homes/ RV’s - sorry for the Iphone photo I must learn to use landscape mode not portrait!



 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #850196 15th Aug 2020 7:27pm
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Dave777



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Thanks Tim, we interacted on the RRS forums and I always knew you would come back to a JLR product from your Mini!!!

The 110 is just too big for us and one reason we are changing the RRS. My wife tended to use a little run around Kia we had for the kids to use instead of the RRS due to worrying about size in modern car parks etc! The 90 is much shorter at least and she still wants to sit up high and feel protected. Hence 18000 miles in our RRS in 5 years. But she loves the car and wants to stay with JLR (our dealer seems a good one too).

We are looking at the Defender 90 D240 HSE vs the Evoque P300E. Sadly none are available for many months to look at and I have to return the RRS in October as it is worth much less than the PCP FGV. I was very unimpressed by the offer from the dealer.
Post #850286 16th Aug 2020 10:05am
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J77



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I was going for the 110 then I changed to 90 because it’s more compact now I’m back to the 110. For me the 90 is too much of a compromise, access to the rear seats, poor luggage space, rear seats don’t fold flat etc. Access to the rear would be made easier by adding air suspension but then we’re getting up to 110 prices.

The 90 is the better looking though! I’ve seen the 90 commercial in the flesh and it looked great.
Post #850288 16th Aug 2020 10:22am
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Dave777



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I agree completely. i would prefer a 5 door but we definitely want a smaller car and our kids have left home now so we have less need for passengers in the back. The seats folding flat is something I want to look at when a car is eventually available.
Post #850289 16th Aug 2020 10:29am
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J77



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I’ve yet to place an order as ideally I’d like to look around the 90 to just to make sure.
Post #850293 16th Aug 2020 10:45am
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Tim in Scotland



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Sounds like a Kia e-Niro might suit your needs - shorter than a 90, lifting tailgate, 5 doors and high seating position........ oh and dirt cheap to run as it’s electric! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #850294 16th Aug 2020 10:48am
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J77



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I was chatting to my salesman last week about the 90, he reckons we’ll doing well to see one in the showroom this side of Christmas.
Post #850297 16th Aug 2020 10:51am
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Dave777



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Sounds like a Kia e-Niro might suit your needs - shorter than a 90, lifting tailgate, 5 doors and high seating position........ oh and dirt cheap to run as it’s electric!


I am hoping for about then too so I can order for March 1st. My salesman suggested November to see one.
Post #850298 16th Aug 2020 10:55am
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Dave777



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Sounds like a Kia e-Niro might suit your needs - shorter than a 90, lifting tailgate, 5 doors and high seating position........ oh and dirt cheap to run as it’s electric!


I quite like them but my wife doesn’t. We like our local Kia dealer so. It ruled it out but as we have to do 330 mile journeys occasionally I am not sure about fully electric just yet. Next car after this maybe.

We still like JLR amazingly so at the moment it is an Evoque P300E or Defender 90 D240 HSE.
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Smilesapart



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I think the new Evoque looks absolutely stunning inside and out. They do a full plug in hybrid in the new Evoque now too Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!
Post #850388 16th Aug 2020 7:16pm
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Dave777



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Yes that is the P300E with a 1.5 litre engine and 300hp combined. Available in Disco Sport and Evoque sometime soon!
Post #850406 16th Aug 2020 8:13pm
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