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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2494   
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So Jeremy, you see it as a replacement for the Discovery 4. I may be missing something really simple here - but wasn't it supposed to be a replacement for the Defender
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25th Jul 2020 6:18pm |
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| Jeremy Member Since: 26 Aug 2014 Location: Surrey Posts: 33
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It can’t be a replacement for my old TD5 90 as 1) it doesn’t leak, 2) it doesn’t require rust proofing, and 3) it doesn’t require yoga stretches after an extended journey. But at 61k for a HSE when a year old D5 HSE with 5k miles can be had for 48k, I’m going to need more alcohol to get the man maths to compute.
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25th Jul 2020 6:27pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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Man maths don’t come into it........ £61k before you add any extras for a brand new car versus £48k for a used car that you don’t know who has abused it, has old technology compared to the Defender especially with the dash and entertainment - no more slow ICTP and when I tested the 2.0ltr diesel D5 it’s performance was dire, same engine in Defender is light years better and the car has been properly designed to accommodate the DPF so less risk of oil dilution and the previous engine issue of earlier Ingenium small diesels. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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25th Jul 2020 7:11pm |
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| VVS210 Member Since: 12 Nov 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 953
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Just stick to the D4 Jeremy - you know how much stick you'll get from the Mr B, Jason & me if you buy either a D5 or that huge fugly monstrosity! And as for what Alan will say
An ideal opportunity to use some man maths to convince you know who it's time to move to the country to avoid the ULEZ  |
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25th Jul 2020 8:13pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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That remains to be proven Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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25th Jul 2020 8:28pm |
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| Jeremy Member Since: 26 Aug 2014 Location: Surrey Posts: 33
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Who knew that a picker upper with Spaniels could be the font of all knowledge.
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25th Jul 2020 8:28pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7682 
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^^^ you mean thats questionable!? Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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25th Jul 2020 9:35pm |
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| Jeremy Member Since: 26 Aug 2014 Location: Surrey Posts: 33
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I’m interested to read your Fuelly outputs. That economy seems poor, no? My D4 will average 30-31mpg. |
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25th Jul 2020 9:46pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3461 
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[quote="Jeremy"]After 4yrs in a D3 and 8yrs in a D4, the latter now at 96k miles, I’m opting for a change. I drove a 110S 240 Defender at Lookers in Bishop Stortford today. It drove beautifully and felt well screwed together. It looked better in the blue rather than the green. I can see it as a serious replacement for my D4. Just waiting to hear what the deal is. Lookers car valuation for my D4 HSE (FLRSH) came out at 12k.
Be interesting to see what discounts they offer. LR experience guys were saying some arrivals had managed 6% on theirs so don’t hold back ! Does the S just have the analogue Rev counter and Speedo? 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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26th Jul 2020 7:08am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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I hope it will improve as the engine beds in but I’m happy with what it gives me, the sort of miles I do it’s regularly showing > 39mpg in local driving which is all on fast A roads with very little town driving. Your D4 has the SDv6 engine that doesn’t have to work quite so hard as the 2.0ltr 4pot. In my last RRS SDv6 with the 306hp engine could get better than the Defender too. I’m happy with it but it doesn’t compare with my last car that I sent back with the trip computers showing more than 300mpg over the 2 years I owned ut. It did help having 3 months >97% pure electric motoring without consuming a drop of petrol in its 3pot 1.5 turbo petrol. - it was a PHEV though. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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26th Jul 2020 8:14am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3245 
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[quote="familymad"]
No S gets full digital dash, the base model gets part digital/analogue  Click image to enlarge |
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26th Jul 2020 1:42pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Out of curiosity have you tried any alternative valuations such as we buy any car, etc? |
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26th Jul 2020 5:07pm |
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| Jeremy Member Since: 26 Aug 2014 Location: Surrey Posts: 33
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WBAC £12K, Autotrader £11,200. The cheapest private seller of a '12 HSE on Autotrader is 14k with 86k miles. I'll aim for £13,750 when I get round to it.
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26th Jul 2020 7:19pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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26th Jul 2020 7:42pm |
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