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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16874   
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It is how the original 128" vehicles were built, but there are many tales of hard-worked ones (especially those with cherry-pickers) breaking in half. I think that altering the wheelbase is also one of the modification which requires a vehicle to be re-registered, but technically it is possible.
Unless you're building a flatbed or tipper, I'd have thought that the easiest way to get all the body and drive;line parts was to buy a 130! |
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23rd Jul 2020 2:12pm |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30 
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Was thinking of buying a 130 but i have not found any 300tdi ones for less than 10k and I've done some looking around and I can probably extend my one to the 127" for around 2k also was planning on reinforcing where i join the 2 chassis parts due to the tales of the ones which broke in half
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23rd Jul 2020 2:29pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848 
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As above, the factory 127s were extended 110 chassis' until they had a dedicated production line. This meant that they also retained their 110 VIN/V5.
You'll need to add a second set of body outriggers, consider the chassis wiring loom and, reinforce it. Mine has extra plating to the top and bottom rails. More than happy to share photos of any parts of the chassis you'd like clarification on. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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24th Jul 2020 7:14am |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Hi Thanks, would you be able to send some photos of where you put the outriggers and where you put the plates? and thanks about the vin number
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24th Jul 2020 9:22am |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848
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I'll take some over the weekend and, upload them here.
To clarify, I didn't extend the chassis myself. Mine is an early 127 so, was extended in the factory. I personally wouldn't extend a chassis myself, I'm a competent welder and, it's not the fabrication that concerns me but VOSA/DVLA. Plenty have done similar things but, most were done before the 'new' legislation on modifying vehicles. A new chassis would give you/them the reassurance that it's 'right'. Of course, even if you went down the new chassis route your v5 still wouldn't add up, 110s and 130s have differnet GVWs (3050kg vs 3500kg). As I mentioned before, early 127s are an exception but, it's widely documented and therefore unlikely to cause you grief if you have one. It might be worth speaking to Foleys etc. as they've done many conversions and will be better placed to advise. I think Blackpaw 4x4 did a 110 to 130 conversion not so long ago, it might be worth speaking to them too. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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24th Jul 2020 9:39am |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Might give foleys a call, but on a somewhat of a tight budget, was thinking of selling my 110 for a 130 but cant seem to find any for the price i would get for the 110, also contacted my local garage and said that they would be willing to help with the conversion.
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24th Jul 2020 11:52am |
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| Nidge Member Since: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Kildare Ireland Posts: 809  
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PVH have this one below been sitting around for a while....may be an option for you build on to this chassis and sell on the 110 chassis and left over parts.
https://pvh4x4.co.uk/vehicles/2002-land-ro...b-300-tdi/ |
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24th Jul 2020 5:17pm |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Thanks, will take a look at it but may need to find a day to go and take a look at it in person, as it doesnt have any images of the chassis
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24th Jul 2020 5:34pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848
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Some photos of the factory chassis extension. The above vehicle seems like a good basis if the chassis is solid. Much less hassle.
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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26th Jul 2020 5:40pm |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Thanks for that, might be a silly question but would it save time if i left the bulkhead and engine/gearbox installed when i weld the chassis, as i dont entirely fancy taking the engine out
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26th Jul 2020 7:51pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848
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It would save time yes but, I wouldn't advise it. You'll have restricted access, the additional weight to support/move around and, you'll have to remove fuel lines, loom etc. to do the job so you might as well remove the engine and boxes too.
It's hard enough to maneuver/line up/cut/weld a bare chassis unless you've got a huge workshop and proper lifting equipment. And, even then you need everything properly supported/clamped to make sure everything is in line when welded. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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26th Jul 2020 8:18pm |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Ah okay, was planning on contacting the local garage for assistance, as I don't have all the equipment at my house, the main reason I asked if it was quicker was that the garage may have to be shut so would want to do this as quickly as possible
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26th Jul 2020 8:35pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848
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Don't forget, you'll still have the registration issue and, I wouldn't do anything until you have that resolved. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" Last edited by Shroppy on 28th Jul 2020 7:39am. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th Jul 2020 8:55pm |
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| T3DDY14 Member Since: 23 Jul 2020 Location: Kent Posts: 30
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Yeah, was looking at the pvh one, but not sure if I'm able to go see it, which is why I'm leaning towards doing the conversion is because i know the condition of the chassis. So I will probably do the extension and then do an IVA I believe, the main reason is I really don't have a huge budget for this
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26th Jul 2020 9:11pm |
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