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LandRoverAnorak



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I've just read an article on the ThisisMoney website that says hydrogen power will be available in the future, running off an Ineos by-product! Darren

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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Bit gutted that we are not up to 230 pages yet

Hurry up people, we have a new Defender to chase.. Whistle
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Green Machine



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Tonga Green
Just to buck the trend of the other responses, I'm not a fan. But I don't like the G-Wagon either. The proportions are just wrong to me. The shoulder line is too low and the upper body too tall, making it look top-heavy. The low shoulder line makes the front end look 'squashed' and I'm not a fan of the front and rear lighting design, which just looks really dated compared to the new Defender's lighting signature. The tail lights remind me of a Ford Cortina.

Also the fact that the load space windows don't line through with the passenger space windows and then it changes again for the rear doors would irritate me!

As What puddle? said, it just looks really dated to me. Not for me, prefer the new Defender. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
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Tr90



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I think I will stick with what I have.

Im sure the new design will grow on me, as maybe the new Defender will too, but they are not a match on what I have already
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excossack



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Defender meets, UMM alter for the curved bonnet, Nissan Patrol/Mitsi double door rear end. Defender outline.
I like it. Just need a lotto win at the weekend. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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wyvern



Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
Supacat wrote:


That’s the marketing spiel ~ the reality is every single new owner I've seen taking delivery on a main dealer's social media has been @50 plus male. How many young people (of the age shown in JLR marketing) are likely to be able to afford a new Defender, especially if they also have the requisite children?

I think the young and active market are more likely to have an old hardtop 110, converted to rough camping with some scrap plywood and sleeping bags that zip together.


I agree - you need to have some money to buy the vehicle - but it maybe selling ‘Trendy youth’ to the middle-aged ! Whistle

Supacat wrote:

Are you suggesting that what has been revealed has not gone through any of the various regulations already and will need to be modified to obtain approval?


From what I have read and seen from their site - I think this still needs to be done before manufacture and may need some tweaks to comply ..
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Post #840894 1st Jul 2020 8:43am
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Stacey007



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I like it...


Would prefer the rear side window so be at the same level as the others but a piece of wrap would sort that...or in Black it would look cool Smile

The only other bit I'm unsure is the front grill, but guessing there will be many options Smile


How much are these going to be, and what engines? BMW?








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Overall having just seen the new Defender yesterday, this looks very promising indeed.




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Stacey007



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Even the roof looks good Rolling with laughter




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Pacha



Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Initial impressions are - Yes! Rgds.

Chris
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Halleluyah! We are saved!

it's like a Defender reworked by an enthusiast who understands and has a brain.

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Avion8



Member Since: 26 Jan 2015
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Australia 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green
I like the nod to Series 1 pork pie rear lights. In fact I like the whole thing - wonder if you can spec one in a Grassmere greenish, or deep bronze green? 1955 Series 1 107" Pick up.
1977 RRC Suffix 'D'.
2000 Defender 110 TD5 Xtreme.
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Co1



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[quote="wyvern"][quote="Supacat"]
I agree - you need to have some money to buy the vehicle - but it maybe selling ‘Trendy youth’ to the middle-aged ! Whistle


That is exactly what it is. They might be a bit daft, but JLR aren’t daft enough to think that 20 something young families can afford to spend that sort of money on a car. But middle aged blokes who miss being in their twenties can and will.
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Supacat



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
I've just read an article on the ThisisMoney website that says hydrogen power will be available in the future, running off an Ineos by-product!


And JLR have Govt money to develop a hydrogen vehicle...
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LandRoverAnorak



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When this goes into production, I think it'll hit the prices of used Defenders more than the new Defender. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
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Bluericky



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
This Grenadier is great , Such a shame it doesn’t have a green oval .
It’s precisely what we’d be looking for to replace the farm vehicles , the new defender was an utter let down in that department . Historically we’ve always used defenders and was concerned our next purchase was going to be a Japanese pick up , not anymore.
I can see why the Grenadier has received some negative comments on styling but for me looks are second to build quality and engineering .
The new Defender is simply the other way round ! https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/
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