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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16877   
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You won't find a simpler, more portable, and more effective tool for getting a wheel back on the hub than a spade, as I suggested above. If you don't believe it, try it.
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9th May 2020 5:56pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1613 
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Blackwolf, thanks for that, I did think about a spade used as a lever, thanks for the confirmation
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9th May 2020 6:18pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7873 
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To lift a wheel on the hub, I've always just sat on the floor with legs straddled either side of wheel then lift wheel with knees. Just need to be careful nothing slips. James
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9th May 2020 9:05pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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Getting the spare off can be a dangerous task I know of at least two people that have suffered broken bones to feet and ankle after the wheel and tyre slipped from their grasp. My method is to grasp it below the centre, turn and push it away from my body and drop stepping back at the same time. Getting it back on is another matter, being elderly I find it impossible to lift off the ground as I don't have the strength , my preferred method is to open the rear door , get the wheel and tyre onto the tow hitch and flop it into the rear, then getting the tyre fitter to fit on the back door unless a good Samaritan stops to give a hand. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
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10th May 2020 9:29am |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133  
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Just out of interest has anyone ever tried lifting the spare up to the mount with a high lift jack ?
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10th May 2020 11:15am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16877
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How would you imagine that working? I can see a number of potential issues (and that's before the "fun police" kick off about Hilift jacks)!
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10th May 2020 11:27am |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831
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Someone else suggested that to me, he wasn't happy about me whacking the jack handle up and down between his legs while he hung onto the wheel.  Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to us off.
Richard |
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10th May 2020 11:31am |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133
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I am not really brave enough to try but was thinking that maybe some else had ^^^^^
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10th May 2020 12:17pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19574
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Be careful of the wheel bouncing and hitting you in the face area too. Place it down, don’t drop it or it will bounce.
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10th May 2020 3:16pm |
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| andydef90 Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: yorkshire Posts: 617 
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I like to have a spare just never know if you need it rip a hole in a tyre and no foam will fix it
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10th May 2020 4:09pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6037 
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That's the answer in a nutshell! |
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10th May 2020 7:04pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 421 
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I had all of my wheels changed in Brittany - spare wheel included. The guy did his job all alone bolting the spare wheel on the rear door. Quite impressive. And I have BFG KM3 on it. In France, the spare wheel is not mandatory. But there are other countries, where you'll need it: just have a look https://www.oponeo.co.uk/blog/mandatory-eq...-in-europe So better leave it where it is, if you use your car on long distance trips. |
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10th May 2020 11:16pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2496 
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Great advice from Julie if you're travelling in other countries. Like Andydef90 I managed to rip open a side wall on a hidden concrete block - so glad I had a spare wheel. I'm getting too old to be hugging large wheels and tyres around so got a nice guy from the AA to change it for me.
If I hadn't have been carrying a spare wheel then it would have been a choice between recovery or leave it and hope the scumbags don't discovery it and help themselves to my bonnet and doors. I'm definitely an advocate for a spare wheel - space saver or full it doesn't matter Defender 90XS SW Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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11th May 2020 8:33am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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An interesting link. Julie, thanks for that.
Spare wheel required in the Czeck Republic and Slovakia. Both destinations popular and relevant for Landy owners. However, my last puncture on one of my vehicles was 30 years ago. Never had a flat on three Defenders, although the previous two spent plenty of time off-road. The spare on the door of a Defender looks great and can be quite useful (for attaching a bike or other objects temporarily to the vehicle). It does get in the way at times (trailer hitch, reversing and just opening the door).Touring, or living in a remote location, I wouldn´t want to be without one. On both my previous Defenders, I never questioned its presence. However, when I bought the 2.2 six years ago, the spare had been removed by the first owner. Before refitting it, I decided to see how it felt without the 35 Kilograms hanging off the back. I haven´t missed it at all, and love how light and easy the rear door operates without it. 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTs, Recaro CSs, anorak, wellingtons |
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11th May 2020 8:39am |
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