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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2233   
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There goes the no claims bonus > 110 XS Double Cab
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9th Apr 2020 4:47pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2164 
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Video only shows one crane being demolished but looks like more fell soon afterwards.
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9th Apr 2020 4:49pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4946 
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bloody hell, it just drops like a house of cards, as soon as the ship hits it. I hope to christ no one was hurt or killed! Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
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9th Apr 2020 4:53pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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40M$ for such a gantry crane? What makes you say that? These things are all produced in China, cost is more like 5-8M$ a piece. They are shipped from China to all over the world by purpose built vessels, usually carrying 4 at the time. At destination they roll off the vessel onto shore about right where they need to put into operation. Tricky cargo, catches a lot of wind. We once had one of these ships deliver such container gantry cranes to the port of Santos in Brazil, one of these Zhen Hua ships as in the picture. Things went wrong there too. That Zhen Hua ship loaded with 4 cranes caught the heavy winds in the port that day, broke loose and went uncontrollably adrift. We had in the next berth at our grain terminal a cape size bulk carrier loading 100.000 MT soybeans for Spain. The Zhen Hua rammed the cape size’s stern, displaced the rudder system, the shock was so great that the cape size again hit a ship loading sugar in the next berth. Three of our 4 grain loading towers also were heavily damaged. The capesize due to the bent rudder system was a total write off. That was a bad day in the office.
Only one of the three cranes collapsed here in Busan by the way. The two other were touched, derailed, but stayed upright. The vessel was not seriously damaged. So not too bad actually. Eric Here is a pic of one of these Zhen Hua cranes.  Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 9th Apr 2020 5:23pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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9th Apr 2020 4:53pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16913
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That was a bit of a balls-up! Momentum can be a problem!
So who pays, the tugs' insurer or the ship's insurer? |
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9th Apr 2020 5:08pm |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 581
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You pay, all insurance is underwritten, if ships have a bad year then ALL insurance goes up, car, home, everything! 80" 1948
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9th Apr 2020 5:25pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Can take a few years before insurance will be sorted, but in principle I would say it will be the vessel’s P&I Club that will pay.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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9th Apr 2020 5:27pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3354 
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What an amazing video. Again, I hope no one was hurt or killed?
Who was to blame is a little argument that could go on for years. We had an issue where I used to work where some switchgear was delivered to site. The truck wheel dropped through a manhole opening on top of a milton pipe which was covered in plywood to stop anyone falling down - but not a truck wheel. As the panel was strapped down to the back of the truck it twisted and in essence wrote the panel off. There was a three way argument between solicitors and lawyers whether it was the truck drivers PI, it was still strapped to his truck and his problem, the main contractors PI for not providing safe access onto the site or my old companies PI as we had bought the panel, it belonged to us and the driver was under our instruction for off loading duties. Do you know, I'm not sure it ever was sorted out? We had to buy a new panel to get the job done. The only winners were the legal team. |
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9th Apr 2020 5:28pm |
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| Lodelaner Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Lambourn Posts: 621 
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Trivia - but it's worth a mention that S Korea also has a healthy heavy ship and structural steel industry from the likes of Hanjin, Hyundai and Samsung. JB @Lodelaner Instagram Youtube greenlaning and other LR related content |
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9th Apr 2020 5:48pm |
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| Oldsalt Member Since: 03 Jul 2018 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 14 
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Oops !
Couple of things from a mariners point of view 1. Appears to be no cargo on deck and not very deep in the water so possibly new build or just out of dock for repairs. 2. Rudder remains turning vessel to stbd throughout therefore stern is moving to port pulling against the tug trying to pull stern away from wharf. 3. Engine still turning even after hitting crane. I suspect the the ship has suffered some form of mechanical failure either of rudder or propulsion system leading to excess speed when approaching berth. Still a bad day at the office though ! |
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