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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Machine Polishing
My side panels have a lot of swirling on them, from crappy machine polishing. How easy/hard is it to polish these out using a polisher and proper technique? For those of you out there with machine polishers, what would you recommend? Plenty of spare weekend time coming up so might as well give it a go.

Cheers
Col
Post #821031 24th Mar 2020 7:37pm
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Scoobeenut



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
I think you would need to be very careful, if the paintwork has already been damaged by poor polishing then the paint may already be very thin. Maybe best to take it to a professional detailer and have the paint thickness checked 1st.
Post #821038 24th Mar 2020 7:58pm
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bear100



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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Gtechniq do a P1 nano polish which is very safe to use with a machine and can even be used by hand, excellent for swirls and holograms Thumbs Up 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
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Post #821043 24th Mar 2020 8:11pm
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Thanks Bear. What do you recommend as a polishing machine?
Post #821050 24th Mar 2020 8:20pm
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discomog



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I'd second what Scoobeenut recommends regarding paint thickness. Problem is you don't know how much paint thickness has been lost due to previous machine polishing. Defender 90XS SW
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Post #821064 24th Mar 2020 8:56pm
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Mdm



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rather than do it yourself and risk buffing thru the already thin paint i can recommend matt at revive over in Yorkshire.

https://www.facebook.com/reviveautocare.co.uk/

not sure if he is open but he can do mobile if you have a decent under cover area
Post #821065 24th Mar 2020 8:57pm
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Co1



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Thanks guys.
Post #821073 24th Mar 2020 9:20pm
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bear100



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There’s loads out there just pick one designed for polishing with variable speed settings, I think I got mine from tool station for about £35. getechnic also do the application attachments.

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Post #821077 24th Mar 2020 9:33pm
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zippo87



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Scotland 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
Good luck - once you start down this avenue it’s a slippy slope!! You’ll have an array of pads, polish of various grades - fillers, waxes, clay bars, detox’s and the likes!! Go for a finer polish and build your way up - you don’t want to burn through and do any damage - if someone’s already been there and you have no idea of thickness I hope it’s not too severe. I used to have a black beemer, some of the hardest paint ever - the landy is considerably softer, and even a light blow over with a fine polish and micro fibre cloth and some poorboys black hole provides a grand finish! Enjoy this journey!!!
Post #821085 24th Mar 2020 10:07pm
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Co1



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Thanks all. I don’t think that whomever did the polish has gone too deep, it looks like they literally spent 30s on the panel and whipped across as the swirl marks are long. Classic dealer quick polish before sale.
Post #821127 25th Mar 2020 7:16am
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Joe the Plumber



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I wouldn't let the dealer wash my van when it was in for servicing. He said 'But our cleaners wash those £70,000 Jaguars out there' and I thought to myself, yes, and they're all covered in swirl marks.

Being white, mine's not too bad, although there have been occasions when I can't be bothered to wash it 'properly' and it's just had a hosepipe and microfibre, but if the virus continues, it's going to get the clean I always intend to give it but somehow never quite manage.
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bpman



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There's lots of good videos on YouTube regarding machine polishing, some amazing results can be had!
Post #821164 25th Mar 2020 10:16am
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Chris86



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Its not too hard to do in fairness - so long as you are not after a show quality finish- it gets far more complicated and multi stage from that point.

When I worked at a small VW dealer we used to regularly have to machine red and white cars due to the issues with the paints oxidising.

We generally used couple of different pads and grades of compound- then a polish, then a good quality wax, then a gloss protector/sealant.

key thing was to always keep the panels/pads wet- I understand that the folk who do detailing go into special lubricating fluids- but we just used to ensure we kept moving across the panels and kept it damp with water.

Regards

Chris
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BobT



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Post #821351 25th Mar 2020 11:25pm
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BobT



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Joe the Plumber wrote:
I wouldn't let the dealer wash my van when it was in for servicing, it's going to get the clean I always intend to give it but somehow never quite manage.

Just had mine main dealer serviced and said the same.
I’ve just spent two days giving mine that clean and still got the roof to wax.
It looks almost as good as when it came out of the showroom.
Post #821355 25th Mar 2020 11:30pm
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