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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
PAS system filters?
Just wondering is anyone aware of any filters being present in the pas system on a defender.

I believe the res have one as they were always classed as a service item. Vehicle in question is running an ali pas res so it's not there.

Issue is loss of pressure and then subsequent lack of assistance to steering. Fluid is discolouring, going dark within 2mins of running.

After fluid change it runs as it should until over 2mins it discolours again and assistance is reduced.

Increasing revs brings back assistance, as does changing fluid.

Evidence of black particles in fluid once its discoloured.

System flushed complete fluid changen4 or 5 times now. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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benniferj



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
I had no idea there is a PAS res filter in the original plastic tank.
Watching this thread with a keen eye!
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oneten110



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In the original metal ps reservoir there is a paper element filter which can be changed but the price of a new filter is eye wateringly expensive.
The plastic reservoirs have a gauze mesh fitted underneath the white disc, not sure if that is available as a replacement part but it is possible to remove it for cleaning.
Black particles suggest seal/seals breaking down somewhere in the system.
The ps on mine occasionally feels a bit limp twisted but usually this is only at engine speeds below idling revs It is not a Defender, it is a One_Ten
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90 Dreamer



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its not filtering the oil as an engine or fuel system filter would more to try and stop any foreign particles or devris making their way through the pump and in general they last the life of the car

as above more likely you have a pump / rack issue causing your problems
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discomog



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A bit like the filter in the top of the screen washer bottle. Defender 90XS SW
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jst



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thank you for replies, i am thinking pipes deteriorating. on a 93 vehicle.

Its had new pump and new box. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #817204 27th Feb 2020 12:37pm
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oneten110



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That is another possibility. If you have a branch of Pirtek near you it might be worth your while to pop in and have a chat with them. They have everything needed to replace the rubber elements of the pipes for a fraction of the cost of renewing the entire pipe. It is not a Defender, it is a One_Ten
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