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Adammacky



Member Since: 28 Dec 2019
Location: West Midlands
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Another non starter
Morning everyone...
...appreciate there are lots of similar threads on here already but as title suggests, my 1999 td5 wont start at all.
Upon turning the key i get one very quiet click, radio comes on fine as well as heaters and also immobiliser working fine.
After reading many a thread in here i am thinking it must be the starter motor?
Had to hitch a lift to work and wont be able to look at it till tonight so any advice in advance would be great.
Never had problems with ignition before.

Thanks!
Post #815755 18th Feb 2020 9:12am
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dorsetsmith



Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
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Is engine cranking over Question with starter motor

start by checking the battery terminal and neg down to chassis and to transfer box

next fuse see below

next relays i.e. starter - fuel pump - main relay


MY 1999 to 2001 relay



driver seat box ( MY1999 rave )

working from foot well end

first yellow relay cooling fan

next one yellow relay compresses clutch A/C

next one black relay Glow plugs

next one black relay ABS return pump

next one yellow relay ( main )




canter box fuse box ( MY1999 rave )

working from passenger side

first yellow relay starter

next yellow relay heated rear screen

next yellow relay head lamp

next brown relay sounder alarm

next green relay fuel pump

also ecu delay windscreen wiper unit brown / relay hazed warning black




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Post #815761 18th Feb 2020 9:57am
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Adammacky



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No cranking over at all, will check the above when i get home, thanks for responding Thumbs Up
Post #815762 18th Feb 2020 10:07am
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landy andy



Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
The solenoid on the starter has failed. Very common problem. Either new starter or fit parts to solenoid. You could also take starter off and take to have rebuilt if it’s a quality make. Repetitively flicking through key may get it to start occasionally, or a tow.

Also check you FPR (fuel pressure return) valve, which is on side of cylinder head above starter and can drip diesel on to starter that then causes the solenoid to fail.

Andy.
Post #815764 18th Feb 2020 10:17am
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Adammacky



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Back home now and been doing some routing around and couldnt find any obvious problems, have flickered the key a bit and managed to get it started, turned off ignition and tried again and started first time perfectly, so I'm guessing it is the starter solenoid as landyandy mentioned?
Thanks for the help guys Thumbs Up
Post #815825 18th Feb 2020 5:02pm
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dorsetsmith



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Post #815849 18th Feb 2020 6:36pm
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Adammacky



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Watched this video earlier, looks simple enough, how hard is it to remove from a defender though, access doesnt look good from what i can see, anyone done theirs recently and got any tips?
Post #815864 18th Feb 2020 7:08pm
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Adammacky



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Ignore the above ive found the thread on here about removal and all the answers are in there! Time to order the replacement parts then!
Post #815869 18th Feb 2020 7:25pm
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Notyalc



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
One fixing is a PITA, just take your time. Remember to disconnect the battery first?
Post #815878 18th Feb 2020 8:07pm
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
The starter is ok to remove but there is one hidden nut, and it’s an odd size. Can’t remember what size though, been a while since I’ve done it. Don’t go cheap with the replacement Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Post #815898 18th Feb 2020 9:41pm
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Dieseljock



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Scotland 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zambezi Silver
The repair kit can be fitted to the starter whilst it’s still in place I’ve done it loads of times. As above make sure you disconnect the battery.Remove front cover 3bolts 8mm socket. Pull out plunger and spring, undo 2 m8 nuts for contacts and remove contacts.Fit new contacts,Leave both new contacts loose and push the plunger in to set the contacts level, then nip up the contacts. If their not set level they’ll burn out quicker. Fit spring and plunger refit front cover. Can be done in less than half an hour
Post #815901 18th Feb 2020 10:05pm
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dorsetsmith



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15mm if can use 6 point socket

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Post #815902 18th Feb 2020 10:08pm
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Adammacky



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Repair kit ordered and plan to do this Saturday morning while theres day light, will update accordingly
Post #815906 18th Feb 2020 10:21pm
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Adammacky



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Would of loved to come on here and say job done... however thats not the case Banging Head
2 bolts i got off from underneath no problem at all, the nut at the top though a real PITA! How on earth can you get good access to it?!
I removed the hose in the way to get a better look but could barely even get the socket but to fit on it let alone the socket extension!
Then it started to p**s down with rain! So i gave up!
Mechanically I am a novice too, probably doesnt help!
Post #816439 22nd Feb 2020 5:52pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
From memory I've done it from above with an 18" extension in the past. When It's light tomorrow I'll have a look and refresh my memory!
Post #816448 22nd Feb 2020 6:36pm
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