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Dexterdog



Member Since: 23 Jun 2018
Location: gloucestershire
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Intercooler
Looking for some advice please folks,

2001 TD5 defender. Does very few road miles, is used mainly for trials / off road navigation events.

The intercooler is looking very tired. Fins are either missing or rotten and the horizontal bars are all "sagging" in the middle.

Obviously intercoolers arent cheap so my question is:

Does it make much difference to performance ? Has anyone replaced a very tired standard intercooler and jumped in it to drive and thought "wow" thats make a difference ?

If changing whats are the views on the uprated intercoolers.....worth the money over basic versions available. Again go you notice any difference

Does it help protect the engine by keeping the air cooler (just to add that its about to have a low level remap)

Thanks in advance
Post #811850 25th Jan 2020 10:46am
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benniferj



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
A big intercooler with a standard map won't do much other than to bring your EGT temp down a bit and I guess help preserve the engine temps a bit.

The benefits are that with an aggressive map you can maintain safe temps while upping the fuelling above where you'd be able to with a standard intercooler. If youre getting it mapped, put on a big IC, remove the EGR valve and get rid of your cat and then have it done. It'll be night and day difference.
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Dexterdog



Member Since: 23 Jun 2018
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Thanks, the cheapskate part of me was thinking that changing the current tired looking intercooler wont do much anyway because I do most of the driving at very low speed off road on trials and that means the intercooler probably isnt doing too much anyway as not much air is passing through it due to the low mph.


Is that logical or am I missing anything?

Cheers
Post #811856 25th Jan 2020 11:28am
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landy andy



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I’ve spent hundreds and hundreds on intercoolers and never noticed the difference particularly. And you certainly won’t with a standard engine and slow speeds of off roading or trialing.

In your situation I would put a wanted add up in the sales section asking if anyone has a used/standard one that they don’t want

Andy
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Dexterdog



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Thanks Andy, really helpful.
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benniferj



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
I get what you're saying, but I also don't know why you'd go for a conservative map if thats the use of the vehicle.
I'd get something that optimises the lower rev range pickup and gets that turbo attacking as aggressively as possible and as early as possible.

Check out some of Jose's TD5Inside videos on youtube. It's incredible what can be done with a properly set up system and how hard a TD5 can work low down in its range.
Probably not a bad start, TD5 at Ultra4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFDs9Pe2KkI
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roel



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Td5 inside do nice maps but there are others in the UK too. Very Happy

I get around 155 hp from my 2003 td5 I think. If I tresh it at the highway my inlet temp gets to about 65 deg Celsius with a standard intercooler. That temperature changes less the 5 deg between summer and winter.
With normal offroading I hardly see high temps, Only if it really needs to work to keep my 35"simexes spinning in the mud.

Even with pulling a trailler on the road it doesn't get really warm for a long time so I think a standard intercooler is good enough. I would replace it if I was you but would try to find a standard one. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
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Post #811883 25th Jan 2020 2:30pm
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Dexterdog



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Thanks Roel, really helpful
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