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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2070   
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its probably easier to use the scavenger from the fuel filler ... done this on 2 of my 110’s and its never been an issue - with a safety feature that it wont run the tank dry nor introduce air into the system ....
just a thought Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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26th Nov 2019 5:46pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683 
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Personally I would drop the tank and fit the dedicated pickup to avoid potential problems with engine fuel supply. T piece just introduces another join and weakness. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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26th Nov 2019 6:03pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1728  
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As James says but carefully cut a hole in the rear floor - easy to do and great immediate access to pick up and sender should you need to.
Keith |
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26th Nov 2019 6:32pm |
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| epictrail Member Since: 21 Sep 2013 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 395 
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I have this spliced into the fill pipe.
https://www.butlertechnik.com/installation...252a-p1291 |
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26th Nov 2019 6:48pm |
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| chopcat Member Since: 11 Sep 2012 Location: Pembrokeshire Posts: 408  
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The standpipe in the fuel filler works a treat on my TD5 .
CC |
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26th Nov 2019 7:58pm |
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| Steve_overland Member Since: 14 Oct 2018 Location: Gaydon Posts: 282
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Hi all sorry should have said. Whichever is a 300 TDI and I definitely want to T in but which one is best??
Cheers for the answers so far @steve_overland on Insta. 110 expedition vehicle with pop roof |
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26th Nov 2019 8:00pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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I would take it off the return from fip to tank. follow leak off pipes to banjo on back of fip and go from there. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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26th Nov 2019 10:14pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1186
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I can't claim credit for this idea but saw it on Jon's ambulance at Seven Sisters (FridgeFreezer over on LR4x4). It was on a 4.6 petrol but the idea holds true for any vehicle.
He teed into the return line from the engine and installed a 1l catch-can with the input and output both at the top of the catch-can. The pickup went to the bottom of the catch-can. The beauty of the system was that you never needed to remember to fill it up as simply running the engine cause it to fill up. You could never run the vehicle out of fuel because it only pulled the fuel from the 1l tank. If you needed to top it up you simply turned on the engine and it would refill (with a 4.6 that could be quite fast!). He worked out and tested that the 1l (I think I've got the capacity correct) would run his heater flat-out for 24h which was more than enough for his requirements. The catch-can was installed on the inside of the chassis rail near the gearbox / transfer-box area so was tucked up nice and out of the way from off-road usage. Beautifully elegant solution. I'll see if I can find reference to it on the forum. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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26th Nov 2019 10:46pm |
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| Steve_overland Member Since: 14 Oct 2018 Location: Gaydon Posts: 282
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Sounds ingenious, will have to have a look at that. Why is the return better than the feed, not questioning it, just trying to understand?? @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof |
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27th Nov 2019 9:40am |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1186
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It'll cause far fewer issues in the return line. If you put it in the feed line then you're more likely to introduce air into the system. Some systems (I think Jon's does) have higher pressure in-tank pumps to deliver the fuel that's guzzled by the V8.
If you imagine pulling up to camp, turning off vehicle, you've now got a nice full catch-can. Turn on the heater and empty it, either you're going to introduce a vacuum and might pull more fuel through from the tank (therefore potentially running it dry). Or it won't pull it from the tank but you're now left with a 2l cavity filled with air which is going to be pulled through first. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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27th Nov 2019 5:14pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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1l for 24hrs on full chat. I would check that. my website coolant and air heaters use more than that. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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27th Nov 2019 9:59pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1186
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Was going off memory but I did come across some mention of it on LR4x4 and it looks to have been a 2l catch-can. May not have been full-chat but plenty to keep the ex-RAF 129 ambulance nice and toasty. Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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27th Nov 2019 10:05pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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Swirl pot or catch can is a good idea. As is running them off aux tanks or botton of through flow additional tanks. On tick over once up to temp the fuel consumption is pretty minimal on webastos Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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28th Nov 2019 8:38am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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Thermo top c, 5kw, 0.3 to .6l an hour. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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28th Nov 2019 8:41am |
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