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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750  
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I cannot understand, when JLR has both a good PHEV and a very highly regarded BEV system available within the group, why they didn’t have an option of one available on launch day. Big mistake LR. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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20th Sep 2019 6:44pm |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 709  
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^ this, particularly in this day and age with all the hoohar about diesels. Kinda baffled by it
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20th Sep 2019 6:53pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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In the spring I had a day in an iPace and was taken on a moderately difficult off-road trail in it - the iPace breezed it despite one or two protestations from the 100% road biased tyres - but we never got stuck. Wading, no problem either. We didn’t go anywhere that would seriously challenge any version of “Land Rover” but it was a real eye opener as to what that car can do fresh out of the showroom. Most impressive was how easy it was to drive it off-road with all the torque it has available, and how controllable it was on steep down slopes using the regen braking system instead of engine braking. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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20th Sep 2019 7:06pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2495 
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My understanding was that all current Ingenium engines were already RDE2 compliant. Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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20th Sep 2019 8:01pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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From the technical section of the e-brochure, only the 3.0ltr Si6 petrol engine is RDE2 compliant by the look of it. Really will not bother those buying new and keeping to the end of the PCP/Warranty but not good news for those looking to buy used ones. My worry is that the 2.0ltr Ingenium is not going to have a long life - it’s a small capacity engine producing a big output which isn’t a recipe for engine longevity.
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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20th Sep 2019 8:43pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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MPG-wise, all engine options are no better than my 2.2! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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21st Sep 2019 8:12am |
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| Ramsay Member Since: 30 Sep 2015 Location: Moffat, Dumfries & Galloway Posts: 625  
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And the CO2 emissions no better than my 300Tdi. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight |
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21st Sep 2019 10:58am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
That`s progress for you so all the thing about emissions being the reason stop making them in 2016
 O but i for get air bags 
Obsolescence be for in Built and for how much |
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21st Sep 2019 1:20pm |
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