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TheShrink



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Noise changing gear
Hi,

I’m in the Alps with 2 young daughters on a mini ‘dad/daughter’ adventure. After the 700 mile drive down I’ve noticed that there is a glunking noise when accelerating from 1,2,3 gear. We have another 3 weeks down here and I wondered if people thought it would be ok to continue to drive like this?

I’ve read on the forum that slack in the drivetrain is a possible cause. Sadly I am non technical so don’t know if this means I am doing more damage.

Any useful insight would be appreciated from a hot and stressed dad!

Thanks in advance
Post #785984 9th Aug 2019 8:31pm
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custom90



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Prop UJ's and drive flanges. (If 2 piece are present.) are the easier items to check.
Beyond that much more investigation is needed, the above are the more typical culprits though. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #785987 9th Aug 2019 8:42pm
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Zed



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Output shaft?
Post #786012 9th Aug 2019 9:37pm
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TheShrink



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If it is the output shaft, flanges or uj do you think it is drivable?
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boxoftricks



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It sounds a bit silly but when you change gear depress clutch, change gear, release clutch and then give it half a second or so before you press the accelerator. You loose a little momentum but it allows everything to spin up before you apply additional torque. Don’t be too aggressive and do everything nice and smoothly especially if you’re heading up a really steep incline putting everything under strain.

From what I can see most defenders have a degree of slack in the drive train. Mine certainly does. I’d happily continue to drive it.
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shropshiredefender



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There are many things that can produce a clunk on gear change in a Defender, some minor , some major that could lead to a loss of drive. The comparatively complicated nature of the drive train makes this type of problem impossible to diagnose from a distance.
Since this problem has suddenly manifested itself I think it needs a professional opinion as you indicate in your other thread.

As suggested above Grenadier might be able to help, but your Breakdown Cover provider is another possible source of local knowledge.
Good luck Thumbs Up
Post #786083 10th Aug 2019 12:00pm
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oneten110



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Another possibility is the "A" frame ball joint.
However as has been mentioned above, the best way to drive a Defender is to be relatively smooth with the controls and pedals.
My first wife was such a lead footed driver she managed to break a Salisbury diff, a transfer box, a gearbox and any number of half shafts It is not a Defender, it is a One_Ten
Post #786090 10th Aug 2019 12:39pm
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TheShrink



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Sadly, driving to find a garage this afternoon resulted in whatever the problem is getting worse. In the end I was unable to come out of gear and just got a metal on metal sound. Car now recovered so hopefully the problem will be solved one way or another. Unfortunately RAC unable to find a hire car.
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Sulisuli



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Oh no Shocked where are they going to recover it to?

Sorry to hear this as your on holidays. Hope you can get things sorted quickly.

As said before Grenadier on here maybe able to help you, I have PMed him to view the thread Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
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Post #786136 10th Aug 2019 5:34pm
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Grenadier



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Thanks SuliSuli.

The Shrink, you have been PM'd. Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Sulisuli



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Thanks Grenadier Thumbs Up hope theshrink can get it sorted so the girls can enjoy their holiday. 2015 HT XS 90
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Post #786156 10th Aug 2019 6:45pm
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Grenadier



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TheShrink wrote:
Sadly, driving to find a garage this afternoon resulted in whatever the problem is getting worse. In the end I was unable to come out of gear and just got a metal on metal sound. Car now recovered so hopefully the problem will be solved one way or another. Unfortunately RAC unable to find a hire car.


Europcar has some vehicles available. Wasn't sure of your dates, so picked Mon to Sat. Agencies are often closed on Sundays I'm afraid. Small variety available which should suit.

https://www.europcar.fr/DotcarClient/step2.action

If, by the time you contact them, there's nothing suitable, try Europcar Annemasse (45mins from Annecy and reachable by train) or Sallanches (Also 45 mins and again, reachable by train). PM has my contact details if you need further help or have lingo problems. Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #786163 10th Aug 2019 6:56pm
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Sulisuli



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Once again this forum pulls together to help a fellow forum member Thumbs Up Grenadier if I ever find myself stuck anywhere in France I’m calling you because I can’t speak french Bow down 2015 HT XS 90
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90 Dreamer



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Same here, can generally just about get by if in France / Germany but never been able to hold anything approaching a conversation.........
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Grenadier



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You’re all welcome, but clearly I'd prefer i got no calls at all, because none of you have broken down. If you’re in the area and stopping off for a beer on the other hand, happy to help you place an order... Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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