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seriesonenut



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Freelander 3?
Interesting article in Autocar today looking at future JLR models and greater links with BMW. It is suggested a new £24k entry market 4x4 on the way with styling taken from the new Defender possibly badged Freelander.

Who knows but a reasonably priced entry level Land Rover is surely missing from the line up right now. 2010 XS USW
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that range rover beckham thing not entry level? plenty of those knocking about like the old free landers used to be Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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JLR did say that Defender would be a range of vehicles, like they already have with RR and Discovery. I would say that a smaller vehicle like that is on the way, sharing the Evoque/Disco Sport platform, but having some variation of the Defender name. Land Rover Defender Freelander anyone? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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How about the "DEFILER"
Sounds like it may fill the gap? 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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I really hope they don't end up with a Russian Doll range of Defender looky-likeys!
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Going by the the Discovery and RR line-up, there is a distinct possibility of that happening. Which might not be a bad thing if the smallest one is a sort of Jimny rival. I live in hope. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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True - the current Defender may be tight on shoulder room but there's no escaping the advantages of it's narrowness on country lanes.
I fear that as much as I like the Rivian (and some other big trucks), they would be impractically wide for where I live.
A smaller/cheaper Defender (as you say, Jimny-like, maybe just a little bigger) would actually be great!
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seriesonenut



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Hi
yes the impression given in the article was smaller vehicle to re capture a sector of the market. Thumbs Up 2010 XS USW
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I think the Jimny (for a smaller 4x4) and G wagen/landcruiser 70 series are the only true contenders for a rugged 4x4 thesedays
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If they can do a basic, small, simple utility version at Jimny pricing, then I'll put down my deposit now.
The trouble is I can't see it happening as it wouldn't fit with their premium pricing strategy.

@ diesel_jim. Don't forget the Wrangler in your list! It's probably the closest thing available now to the "proper" Defender.

Solid axles.
Ladder chassis.
Proper transfer box.
Removable hard top, doors and a folding screen.
Front & rear mechanical diff locks on the Rubicon model.
Tons of accessories and aftermarket parts.

We may even get the dual cab pick up version over here with a bit of luck.

But then again I am biased, having jumped the JLR ship and turned to the dark side Wink
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...True, I forgot the wrangler.... I stopped at the local Fiat/jeep dealership the other week and took a few pics of a SWB & LWB... quite liked them.
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diesel_jim wrote:
I think the Jimny (for a smaller 4x4) and G wagen/landcruiser 70 series are the only true contenders for a rugged 4x4 thesedays


Alas, I think you are probably right.

I will not knock the new Defender until it has been released and tested by normal people rather than the weirdo car journalists who never seem to understand what I am looking for in a car.

If I was in the position to buy a new high end 4x4. Not sure the RR or Disco 5 would be on my list.
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