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custom90



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Hot cross bun don’t forget. Very Happy

Although Easter is rather late this year! Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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ericvv



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leeds wrote:

Now do we confuse Eric even more by telling him a bakers dozen is not 12 but 13?
Brendan


Not sure about that short 10 feet, but I do like your baker’s dozen. Very Happy



Only wish our expensive Swiss bakers would have gone to the same school as yours. Wink
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Post #765220 24th Mar 2019 9:04pm
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leeds



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Oh Eric you do not know what a short 10 feet is?. Sorry your Swiss education is lacking!

The imperial system of timber measurements used to be feet and inches, which does have some merit!

Now a 10 foot length of 4 x 2” was a typical length/size of timber.

Now metrication come about in mid 1970’s with the U.K. joining the EEC or the EU.

Now 3,000 mm or 3 m is 9 feet 10 inches so a short 10 feet.

Now 4 x 2 is a lot easier to say then 100 x 50


Yes I can work in both systems and there are advantages in both systems.


Brendan
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Tip my hat Brendan, but having been a grain trader most of my life, I have been equally educated with bushels, long and short tons, and that’s all embedded in my brain. One day you and I should sit down and have a discussion why a bushel of wheat weighs not the same as a bushel of corn. Could be fun with a good bottle of wine. Thumbs Up
Eric

P.S. a 4x2 really is 100.16 x 50.08. Just to be precise. Whistle You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #765245 24th Mar 2019 11:04pm
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leeds



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Now are we talking about rough sawn or planed 4 x 2?

Short ton of 2,000 lbs, metric tonne of 1,000 kg or about 2,200 lbs or imperial ton 2,240 lbs.

Now why does a hundredweight actually weigh 112 lbs?


A good bottle of red would be extremely acceptable to Barbara, for me a good red or a good beer.

We will be at Bad Kissingen again this year if you want that discussion. The Germans actually do a decent red wine but they do not tend to export it. There again we are spoilt with the choice of beer at B K


Brendan
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How about a long stand, a blue blunt needle or a bucket of steam, or my personal favorite a spare bubble for a spirit level. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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muddybaldboy



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gilarion



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leeds wrote:


Now why does a hundredweight actually weigh 112 lbs?

Brendan


In 1340, King Edward III changed the value of the stone from 12½ pounds to 14 pounds, mainly to do with the development of the standardisation of a sack of wool to be 14 pounds. Since a hundredweight = 8 stones, the 100-pound hundredweight became 112 pound For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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leeds



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As Eric says every day is a school day.


Now Gilarion I do have some questions about your explanation

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In 1340, King Edward III changed the value of the stone from 12½ pounds to 14 pounds, mainly to do with the development of the standardisation of a sack of wool to be 14 pounds. Since a hundredweight = 8 stones, the 100-pound hundredweight became 112 pound



Now a sack of wool weighing 12.5 or 14 lbs seem rather light in weight. Easily carried by man or beast.

Now why the name a stone for 12.5 or 14 lbs?

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The wool sack or woolsack (Latin: saccus lanae or lane) was standardized as 2 wey of 14 stone each, with each stone 12½ merchants' pounds each (350 lbs. or about 153 kg), by the time of the Assize of Weights and Measures c. 1300. 12 such sacks formed the wool last.[3]



Now a sack of wool weighing about 350 lbs seem rather heavy to be manhandle by a man or even two men.



As an aside I used to have to empty 1 cwt/112 lbs bags of lime into the pig coating process and that was without mask/googles etc.


Eric, see what can of worms you have opened! Has anyone actually bought a can of worms in a supermarket?


By the way Eric these pigs I was liming are not the same pigs as we wrap in blankets! Rolling with laughter


Brendan
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Why to do the things easy if you can dmake it complicate?

Despite that we use the metric system down here, still we use the inch system for wood.
And, as usual, to mess up the things we have the short wood inch and long wood inch.


The short wood inch is a plank of 1 inch of thickness, 10 inch wide and 10 feet long
The long one is the same but 12 feet long

Short one is used in pine plantatoions and the long one in native woods.

Also we have some innovatives measurements like the truck feet (8 feet) that is the maximum wide of a truck Eduardo

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ericvv wrote:
Wow, after all that culinary wisdom, I need a stiff drink. Like this here. Thumbs Up
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Looking at the pictures I’d probably need a bottle or two of those during my meal. Scotch egg? Jellied eels?!!! Shocked
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excossack



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leeds wrote:
You think that is mysterious Eric, tut tut Eric you will never understand the British.

1) Bap
2) Cob
3) Bridie
4) Morning roll
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What am I talking about? Bread rolls


Now what is a tea cake? Not a cake made from tea! Now should a tea cake have currents in? Or is that a current tea cake? Have I started another argument?



Now what about squash fly cake/slice/pie?


Brendan


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Eduardo wrote:
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And, as usual, to mess up the things we have the short wood inch and long wood inch.


The short wood inch is a plank of 1 inch of thickness, 10 inch wide and 10 feet long
The long one is the same but 12 feet long


Sometimes I got wood too, but to say how many inches or feet that is, would probably make some of you feel inferior so I won't comment on that...

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I had a bottle of this bought me as a present a couple of years ago....I have to say it was realy good.
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