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seriesonenut



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lifting an engine and gearbox together - possible or not?

Hi

We are reaching the interesting part of my brothers restoration of his 1986 Ninety CSW.

We fitted the engine to the chassis today and now have to fit the gearbox. I was wondering if it would be easier to take the engine out again, join the engine and box together on the floor then lift the whole lump in ? my reasoning being only 4 points to line up.

Any thoughts or fit them separately?


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engine 2 by Richard Holmes, on Flickr


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engine1 by Richard Holmes, on Flickr 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2

Post #757804 10th Feb 2019 7:09pm
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gcc130



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I’ve done it with a 2.5 petrol and a 11a gearbox in and out of my series one chassis.
I don’t think I do it again, it’s quite heavy and makes moving the crane difficult and cumbersome. It would possibly have been easier to lift the unit and push the rolling chassis under.
Good luck.

Post #757811 10th Feb 2019 7:34pm
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Slideywindows



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I would add the gearbox to the engine, now that the engine is in situ.

The job is much easier if you use two long threaded studs in the flywheel housing, to guide the gearbox in.

Post #757851 10th Feb 2019 9:28pm
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GREENI



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It's possible, using plenty of tree strops I've used in the past. instagram @v8_scumbag

Post #757854 10th Feb 2019 9:33pm
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Mo Murphy



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I'd do them separately. Motor and box is a big old lump to move about. A hanging gearbox is easier to locate on the back of the fixed and mounted engine.
At least, it was for me 😊
HTH
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seriesonenut



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Hi
Sounds like I should carry on as planned then fitting the box to the engine in the chassis. I think I will take off the gearbox mounts to allow more wriggle room before fitting them back to the chassis once the box is bolted to the engine Thumbs Up 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2


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Post #757886 10th Feb 2019 11:16pm
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miker



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As you have the body off, you either have to persuade the engine and gearbox together while they're on the floor, or while one is solidly mounted to the chassis. I'd pick the latter!

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I put the 2 in together on my rebuild Thumbs Up Cheers
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Post #759417 18th Feb 2019 4:40pm
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When me and my dad did an engine conversion we added the full works together and lifted the full works into the subframe. Made life easier Thumbs Up Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Post #760385 23rd Feb 2019 6:19pm
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seriesonenut



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Well a little update from yesterday on my Brothers '87 Ninety

From this

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lt77 by Richard Holmes, on Flickr

to this (in two parts)


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chassis by Richard Holmes, on Flickr


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plan by Richard Holmes, on Flickr

Next job paint the engine and start fitting new brake lines 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2

Post #764211 18th Mar 2019 10:08pm
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jst



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Looking good.

I have lifted both engine and gbox in/out complete several times with bodywork in place.

For your case with bare chassis I would of done it as individuals, but prob gbox first. It doesn't really matter, and yours is in and looking good. Cheers

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Post #764216 18th Mar 2019 10:32pm
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