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Mini Landie



Member Since: 23 Sep 2015
Location: Basingstoke Massiff
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
What is the law and insurance like with seat removal?
I'm interested in buying a Defender 90 TD5 and am after one with two front seats, cubby box and no rear seats (however bench seats would be fine).

I am seeing many nice ones online that don't quite fit the bill (two front seats but some rear seats or three front seats and no rear seats).

I wouldn't like to discount these vehicles just because of the seat arrangements so am wondering if I were to opt for a vehicle with three front seats or some rear seats, if I could remove them and replace the middle seat with a cubby box?

I've done my darndest trying to search for a question like mine but I'm not having much luck. Sad
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I had years ago a 90 with three front seats I removed the centre one and did as you are planning and put a cubby in. I notified my insurance co and they were fine, I rang DVLA and they said that it could cause problems if I sold it and the new keeper wanted to replace the centre seat, they were happy just to leave it as three seats. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #780121 4th Jul 2019 11:31am
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Mini Landie



Member Since: 23 Sep 2015
Location: Basingstoke Massiff
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
Good to hear!

I've not long come off the phone with A Plan (their Off Road section/branch) and the very nice lady on the phone said there shouldn't be an issue - it would just be listed as a modification. They said it would only really be an issue if I took the vehicle to over 7 seats, which won't be happening so no issues there.

That's a sigh of relief! Opens me up to many more 'fenders!
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Removing seats is seldom if ever a problem.

Fitting extra seats is often a problem and can be a minefield.
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LandRoverAnorak



Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
When I insured a 90 a couple of years ago, I swapped the middle seat for a cubby. When I mentioned this to the broker, they said it's best not to mention it as some insurers see it as a modification that they won't cover. The fact that Land Rovers come in so many varieties makes it impossible to prove if that sort of thing is a modification or original. Darren

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Post #780127 4th Jul 2019 12:17pm
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Mini Landie



Member Since: 23 Sep 2015
Location: Basingstoke Massiff
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
The fact that Land Rovers come in so many varieties makes it impossible to prove if that sort of thing is a modification or original.


That's the thing... there must be so many Defenders out there that owners have insured their vehicle as having no modifications because it looks standard (like someone swapped a middle seat for a cubby box or even resprayed the vehicle).

I had the same dilemma when I purchased my first car (classic Mini). I hadn't had any real firsthand experience with Minis so I couldn't say for sure how modified or not my vehicle was - because I just didn't know. Other than the modern head unit that was installed.
Post #780128 4th Jul 2019 12:22pm
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OsloBlue



Member Since: 14 Jul 2018
Location: Essex
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
When I went to get a quote from A plan they asked as to whether all 9 seats would be installed, and that having all 9 was a reason they couldn’t quote for me. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html
Post #780136 4th Jul 2019 1:12pm
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Ramsay



Member Since: 30 Sep 2015
Location: Moffat, Dumfries & Galloway
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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
I have mentioned this before but LV would not cover my CSW because it had the centre seat removed. Seat removal was a prohibited modification for them. So you might lose some insurers. Some won’t consider vehicles with 7 seats because of increased injury costs.
I would say don’t exclude a vehicle but accept you will need to shop around on the insurance. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
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